From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 11 14:52: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9DD37B417; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBBMq1G40232; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:52:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:52:01 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: D J Hawkey Jr Cc: Nik Clayton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tangent for discussion: FreeBSD performs worse that Linux Message-ID: <20011211175201.B39837@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011209084620.V14858-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> <20011209111523.A23357@sheol.localdomain> <20011209175137.B13554@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20011209121703.A23726@sheol.localdomain> <20011210080032.A4215@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20011210152414.A1367@sheol.localdomain> <20011211191403.B82053@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20011211150459.A8415@sheol.localdomain> <20011211162304.A39837@blackhelicopters.org> <20011211155444.A8723@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011211155444.A8723@sheol.localdomain>; from hawkeyd@visi.com on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 03:54:44PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 03:54:44PM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote: > On Dec 11, at 04:23 PM, Michael Lucas wrote: > NOW what'd I get myself into? The wife is gonna kill me. Well, yes. > > Nope. Just an @freebsd.org mail addy and a coupon for economy-size > > Maalox. Sorry. Put up what you've got. > > OK, I'll take the addy (what's the convention, initials? Mine are "djhjr"). > The freebsd.org mailserver is POP3able, right? Sorry, I've misspoke here: A lot of people volunteer to do this sort of thing, and never really carry it through. This sadly happens often enough that we don't give out the email addresses until there's actual stuff that gets out there, maintained for a while, and integrated into the project. My sincere apologies for implying anything else. (The following is in no way about you in particular, Hawk; it's just an unfair characterization we're stuck with, because it seems to fit the facts.) Unfortunately, many people start things and never finish them, or don't see them through. Since @freebsd.org is one of the few things we have to offer committers, we don't hand them out to people who are starting things. (If more people actually carried through, I'm sure this would change.) I started doing things is 1999, but got a commit bit last month. Admittedly, most of those didn't go directly into the project. Yours, I suspect, will get picked up quickly if you can coordinate it well. > You don't mind if a few others weight in, do you? I can spell, but I'd like > opinion on the language vis-a-vis the targetted audience. And some legal > kinda guy or girl. I don't know if the disclaimer is adequate protection. Seriously, it's your project. Involve as many people as you want. You are in change. (That's the hardest thing to get used to with this project.) -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message