From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 16 16:37:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45252159E1C3 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 16:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9A18AF65 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 16:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7385718049 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 11:37:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: OT: android phone backup NOT to google cloud question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190516100114.fcb08b7ba3ac1b5b5f16ed1c@sohara.org> <20190516122939.038c64aa@archlinux> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <16b98026-7c84-2e63-573b-9599282efea4@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 11:37:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190516122939.038c64aa@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3B9A18AF65 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.79)[-0.789,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.44)[0.444,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 16:37:50 -0000 On 2019-05-16 05:29, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > Is for Android devices nothing available similar to iTunes for iOS > devices? Depending on vendor... Speaking for Motorola (bought out by Lenovo not long ago if I'm not mistaken): nope. Other vendors: say, my old (~ 5 years maybe) Samsung Galaxy note 3 I got through AT&T - there was tool to make local own backup (can not vouch for full restore like iTunes allows for iDevices), but it's been too long since. My general impression is things got worse, i.e. google cloud, or maybe some vendors will offer their cloud instead of google. On the other hand the company invested so much of money (I'm staying from guessing about source of it) into data mining does want data trickle to them, even if you get your data back ultimately. I mean as investment, making android system, and keeping developing it, and supporting huge variety of hardware. Cost is enormous, there should be even bigger return on investment. So as return my suspicious mind would call the data android system allows its creator to receive. Somebody has opposite examples related to android, I'd love to hear them. As I only observe what I have immediate access to. Once again, thanks, everybody, for your insights! Valeri > Since Android isn't real-time audio capable I'm using iPads. > Each time a Windows release does reach end of life, there's the need to > set up a new virtual machine with a new Windows guest, to get the > required iTunes releases running. It's quite annoying, but at least an > iOS device user isn't forced to use iCloud for a backup. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++