From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 06:16:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9270616A4CE; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 06:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (hak.cnd.mcgill.ca [132.216.11.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3749B43D31; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 06:16:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i25EHxCR042289; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:17:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: (from mat@localhost) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i25EHw3b042288; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:17:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:17:57 -0500 From: Mathew Kanner To: Helge Oldach Message-ID: <20040305141757.GC35653@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <200403051938.54236.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200403051308.OAA11478@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200403051308.OAA11478@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.62 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.62 (2004-01-11) on hak.cnd.mcgill.ca cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: rwatson@freebsd.org cc: jorn@wcborstel.nl cc: rpratt1950@earthlink.net cc: mat@cnd.mcgill.ca Subject: Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:16:16 -0000 On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: > Daniel O'Connor: > >On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:06, Helge Oldach wrote: > >> The issue with kldloading is that you still need PNPBIOS for many > >> on-board sound devices. Which means that you need to compile your own > >> kernel anyway, or don?t you? > > > >I don't think I've ever seen a motherboard/BIOS where you HAD to > >compile it in the kernel.. > > I have a number of Compaq DeskPro EN K450 here. Rather decent machines > for FreeBSD desktops, and for sure not uncommon hardware. But > unfortunately the stupid Compaq BIOS doesn't have a knob to turn off > PnP, so I have to rely on PNPBIOS to deal with what the Compaq BIOS had > detected. Helge, Are you required to compile sound in the kernel to get it to work? If so, then I will document the fact that in some unsual circumstances that including sound statcily in the kernel is needed, otherwise I intend to de-emphesize it. --Mat --Mat -- The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. - June Callwood