From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 9 20:39: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB77F37B400 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B776443E75 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 6807 invoked by uid 417); 10 Sep 2002 03:39:04 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 03:39:04 -0000 Received: from planb ([216.194.25.11]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:39:00 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:38:46 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: Juli Mallett Cc: nwestfal@directvinternet.com, dave@jetcafe.org, tlambert2@mindspring.com, crap@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-Id: <20020909233846.273a5854.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20020905190756.A54861@FreeBSD.org> References: <20020904232446.0b55b1d5.yid@softhome.net> <20020904205814.U38687-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> <20020905190756.A54861@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:07:56 -0700 Juli Mallett wrote: > > So why are you attacking what my religion teaches? Aren't you just > > being a little bit hypocritical? Do you think that Christians just > > made up the doctrine of hell? Where do you think it came from? Did > > In ancient Hebrew tribal religion, there were two sects, one who > worshipped the god of death, one who worshipped the god of life. Evidence? > with Christianity these days. It would be more correct to say that > Hebrew tribal elders made up hell; you are forgetting that the roots > of Christianity are in Judaism. Not in this, xtianities views about hell are primarily influenced by Zoastrianism and Greek mystery religions. Judaism believes primarily in a purgatory, not hell, and an afterlife reward not based upon choice of religion other than not doing idolatry... > from Celtic and old European religions throughout the ages, and that > Jesus was a man, and a great man, and a man who said great things. Most of the things he is claimed to have said had been said by Jewish Rabbis of his era such as Rabbi Hillel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message