Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:31:21 +0800 From: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> To: Berend de Boer <berend@pobox.com> Cc: freebsd-fs <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: EBS snapshot backups from a FreeBSD zfs file system: zpool freeze? Message-ID: <51D524C9.1030700@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <87d2qz42q4.wl%berend@pobox.com> References: <87ehbg5raq.wl%berend@pobox.com> <20130703055047.GA54853@icarus.home.lan> <6488DECC-2455-4E92-B432-C39490D18484@dragondata.com> <CADBaqmihCB5JP01hLwXTWHoZiJJ5-jkT-Ro=oDwOcKZT_zvEKA@mail.gmail.com> <A5A66641-5EF9-454E-A767-009480EE404E@dragondata.com> <871u7g57rl.wl%berend@pobox.com> <op.wznad7th34t2sn@tech304.office.supranet.net> <87mwq34emp.wl%berend@pobox.com> <20130703200241.GB60515@in-addr.com> <87k3l748gb.wl%berend@pobox.com> <20130703233631.GA74698@icarus.home.lan> <87d2qz42q4.wl%berend@pobox.com>
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On 7/4/13 7:56 AM, Berend de Boer wrote: >>>>>> "Jeremy" == Jeremy Chadwick <jdc@koitsu.org> writes: > Jeremy> As politely as I can: It sounds like you may have spent > Jeremy> too much time with these types of setups, or believe them > Jeremy> to be "magical" in some way, in turn forgetting the > Jeremy> realities of bare metal and instead thinking "everything > Jeremy> is software". Bzzt. > > Heh. The solution with Amazon is even worse: if things go wrong, > you're screwed. Can't get your disks back. You can't call > anyone. There's no bare metal to touch, and no, they won't let you > into their data centres. > > So I'm actually trying to avoid the magic. > > The only guarantee I basically have is that if I have made an EBS > snapshot of my disk, I can, one day, restore that, and that this > snapshot is stored in some multi-redundancy (magic!) cloud. > > (And obviously you can try to run a mirror in another data centre > using zfs send/recv, yes, will run that too). > > If you go with AWS, there are no phone calls to make. Disk gone is > disk gone. So you need to have working backup strategies in place. put your data on multiple data centers using a panzura box > > -- > All the best, > > Berend de Boer > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Awesome Drupal hosting: https://www.xplainhosting.com/ >
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