From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 04:10:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E733116A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:10:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F8343D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:10:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i8J4B7W20113; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Martin Moeller" , Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:11:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20040917134014.GA432@tyr.systh.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:10:53 -0000 Go buy a HP Laserjet 4M+ that's used. For starters the things are indestructible you might have to do a feed roller replacement at 50,000 prints, but other than that you just keep putting toner and paper in it. They are dirt cheap used and the remanufactured toner cartridges for them are also dirt cheap. The PostScript is real PostScript. They take an internal print server card that is also dirt cheap on the used market. The problem with the cheapie Laserprinters like the 6L is they will fall apart after a few thousand prints, their toner cartridges are tiny which necessitates frequent replacement. Keep in mind the printer companies have 2 markets they serve. The first is the commercial market who cares about things like per-page costs. The second is the retail market comprised mostly of morons who only buy what's on sale and couldn't calculate a per-page cost. Customers in the first market are quite willing to pay a higher initial cost for the printer if the supplies are lower priced or more economical because it drops the per-page cost. Thus, a printer that costs $199 that has a toner cartridge that only prints 500 copies, and costs $100 to replace, will be ignored in favor of a printer that costs $1000 that has a toner cartridge that prints 3000 copies and costs $100 to replace. Customers in the second market will ignore a $999 printer and buy the $199 printer. This describes most retail customers to a T. Now, it probably costs the printer manufacturer about $150.00 to manufacture either the $1000 printer or the $199 printer. So, to maintain profitability on the $199 printers, they give away the printer and make the money on the toner cartridges. The 4+ was in the business classification when it was new. Thus you get the benefit of a $1000 printer that was designed for low page counts, for a low cost initial price. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Martin Moeller > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 6:40 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD > > > Hi all, > > I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my > Canon S500 are > total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and I'm > wondering which one I should buy. > > I thought about the HP Laserjet 6L or something in this category. > Any advice? > > Thanks! > Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >