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Date:      Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:27:52 +0200
From:      Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.org>
To:        Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
Cc:        Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info>, Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Pinephone Pro
Message-ID:  <86pm87ua7x.fsf@peasant.tower.home>
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Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> writes:

> I know. But the pro version is too expensive for me. :(

I tried to say that there's no hurry and you'd save money to buy the Pro
version instead ;)

>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 4:23=E2=80=AFPM Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.org> w=
rote:
>
>  Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> writes:
>
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > I see that the Pinebook pro is very expensive for me. Can I collaborat=
e with you if I bought this version of the PinePhone ?
>  >
>  > https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-pac=
kage/
>
>  PinePhone (not Pro) is built on Allwinner A64 (4xCortex A53). Compare it
>  to Rockchip RK3399S (2xA72 + 4xA53) of the Pro version. There'll be
>  different device trees for those models and it's curious to me how
>  different those models are in terms of devices/drivers available in
>  FreeBSD.
>
>  You can definitely buy it, but be prepared that we'll need to prioritize
>  if the actual development will be planned. Personally, I'd pay attention
>  to the Pro model.
>
>  Regards,
>  Dmitry
>
>  >
>  > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:57=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.or=
g> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> writes:
>  >
>  >  > PineTime is interesting and it is in my budget. I could buy it and =
then try to play a little bit with it. Maybe FreeBSD can be
>  installed
>  >  there ?
>  >  > or Linux ?
>  >
>  >  PineTime is built upon nRF52832 (64 MHz Cortex-M4) which doesn't have
>  >  MMU. So, no FreeBSD or Linux can be used there (uCLinux is an excepti=
on,
>  >  but 64 KiB of RAM isn't enough).
>  >
>  >  Details: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=3D8112
>  >
>  >  Regards,
>  >  Dmitry
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim=
.org> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >  Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info> writes:
>  >  >
>  >  >  > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]]
>  >  >  > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Dmitry Salychev wrote:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >>> I think you should be prepared to build your own image.
>  >  >  >>> With FreeBSD it is not very difficult (I find it easier than in
>  >  >  >>> the Linux world).
>  >  >  >>>
>  >  >  >>> Marcin
>  >  >  >>>
>  >  >  >>> [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> I'd take their device tree and try to boot GENERIC kernel for a=
rm64 in
>  >  >  >> order to get an idea which drivers are missing:
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> # dmesg | grep "no driver" | grep -v "disabled"
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> Pete, are you going to keep your findings somewhere? I don't ha=
ve
>  >  >  >> PinePhone Pro at the moment, but would like to follow and can s=
upport
>  >  >  >> with customizing your kernel.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Now thinking about getting one, too.. Maybe wiki.freeebsd.org co=
uld be the place
>  >  >  > to keep notes?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > saper
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]
>  >  >
>  >  >  Btw, it has almost nothing to do with the FreeBSD itself, but I re=
cently
>  >  >  received PineTime (both sealed one and a devkit) as a gift and can=
 say
>  >  >  that it's quite good in terms of PCB/assembling quality. Their Fre=
eRTOS-based
>  >  >  OS works surprisingly good as well. If the PinePhone Pro is simila=
r,
>  >  >  it's worth bringing FreeBSD there.
>  >  >
>  >  >  +1 for notes kept at wiki.freebsd.org
>  >  >
>  >  >  Regards,
>  >  >  Dmitry
>  >  >
>  >  >  --=20
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>  >
>  >  --=20
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>
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