From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Aug 27 11:16:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA24763 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA24740 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1933 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Aug 1997 18:16:33 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199708271205.IAA00522@i4got.lakewood.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: pechter@lakewood.com Subject: Re: ? power outages and file system corruption Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Bill Pechter; On 27-Aug-97 you wrote: ... > Nah, time of day clock battery backup was standard on 11/780's > Memory battery backup was an option on both. Neither one were nvram. > Neither one avoided disk checks on power fail (VMS mount verification). > The batteries needed to be checked occasionally and replaced if they > were bad. Ah, so technology yet advanced :-) We had a battery and now it is gone. You are probably right about it being an option. More proof things are still the same. > > VAX/VMS, however did great powerfail recovery. I dropped the power to > an > entire computer room at Fort Monmouth as a test. > > The 6 RP06's and 2 RM05's spun down, the cpu fans went quiet. The > VT100's > froze and blinked out. I waited 5 minutes and flipped the main circuit > breaker on. The machine reloaded the console firmware, checked the > memory > status, and resumed execution of empire (or some other game which was > the > VAX/VMS rogue equivalent on all terminals) at the next move. I had this excercise done on production units twice. Once by a truck which backed up into a 6Kv line dropping it to the ground. Another by a fire in an ajacent wherehouse. > Unix would do the same thing based on the memory register status being > ok. Would maybe. System V rlelease from the Labs did not. Niether did BSD, or we will have this code in FreeBSD. No? You are right of course about RSTS. That was on PDP-11, which had a battery support for main memory too, I think. Had great lead bars at the bottom of the cabinet too. I melted down the last one about a year ago. Simon