From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 19 12:50:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E70A37B40E for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:50:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15YYan-0009zB-00; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:50:41 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f7JJoXM25430; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:50:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:50:33 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: conspiracy theory, anyone? Message-ID: <20010819205033.A25396@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010818135002.A15719@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15230.41929.497256.848736@guru.mired.org> <20010819170612.A24103@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15231.59172.206994.52598@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <15231.59172.206994.52598@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 11:19:48AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 11:19:48AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: | j mckitrick types: | > On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 12:20:09PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: | > | > i forgot one other article... | > | > http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html | > | That one has been debunked in a number of places. I like | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19925.html >. | > This response is about Gibson, not Cringley, correct? | | Correct. But they're touting the same line about this. Cringley even | cites Gibson as confirmation in his next column. I do agree that raw sockets will not necessarily mean attacks will increase dramatically. But I *do* believe that it is very well within the MS scheme of things to attempt to proprietize the very fabric of the net itself with a cleverly disguised attempt to make the net safer and more secure, or perhaps the same way they have done it up until now: brute force. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message