From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jul 10 15: 4:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FDD37B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC19643E31 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:04:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsi@panix.com) Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C796981FF; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rsi@localhost) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.3nb1/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) id g6AM4UD11370; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200207102204.g6AM4UD11370@panix1.panix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: panix1.panix.com: rsi set sender to rsi@panix.com using -f To: Thierry Herbelot Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Listening to users [was Re: Package system wishlist] References: <3D2BE142.E25CA9BC@mindspring.com> <3D2CAAC1.5CF66C96@herbelot.com> From: Rajappa Iyer Date: 10 Jul 2002 18:04:29 -0400 Reply-To: rsi@panix.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thierry Herbelot writes: > [Snip the long arguments over which new format for the packages] > > there is a interesting post by an ex-user of desktop Linux, which can > help when designing the new package system (it will have to be used by > mere mortals, not only by the elite posting on -arch) > > > (shamelessly cut&pasted from /.) > > we still have a long way to go before even computer-aware people (that > is, even people formely developping on SGI or Sun machines) can feel at > ease installing and using FreeBSD. Note that almost all of his frustration was due to the multiple distributions problem in Linux; a problem we do not, happily, share with Linux. Also note that FreeBSD, by and large, does not have nearly as many incompatible changes to the device driver interface. Another Linux problem which is a non-problem in the FreeBSD world. As far as probing hardware is concerned, by and large, I've not needed to use anything but the GENERIC kernel for a long, long time now. The whole setting up of CD-RW devices as a pseudo-scsi device on Linux is a kludge. In other words, I have to say that the complaint above does not in any way support your contention that FreeBSD is hard to install and use. rsi -- a.k.a. Rajappa Iyer. They also surf who stand in the waves. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message