From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 02:32:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8346837B401 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hannibal.servitor.co.uk (hannibal.servitor.co.uk [195.188.15.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6057C43FA3 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@iconoplex.co.uk) Received: from hannibal.servitor.co.uk ([195.188.15.48] helo=iconoplex.co.uk) by hannibal.servitor.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19ms2J-000AHv-H4; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:35:19 +0100 Message-ID: <3F3A0581.9010908@iconoplex.co.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:31:45 +0100 From: Paul Robinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <3F37D493.9050604@potentialtech.com> <44lltyij8s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <3F397708.7050803@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <3F397708.7050803@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-03:09.signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:32:00 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > And ... as far as I'm concerned, WEP is _completly_ insecure, and totally > worthless. Great, so I send you 10Mb of WEP traffic caught off the air, you can decrypt it for me? You see, to me it's just a big mess of encrypted traffic, but you obviously have some secret technique (or should that be "t3kni|<" ?) for breaking it trivially. If you can't, you've just shown it has some security advantage. Which it has. Oh, and I think you meant that you were guessing WEP is completely UNsecure, and not INsecure. If it was insecure, it would be asking us all to hug it more often. -- Paul Robinson