From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 19:44:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C2016A400 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from green.dls.net (green.dls.net [209.242.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F8813C45A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from emailrob.com (216-145-235-90.rev.dls.net [216.145.235.90]) by green.dls.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911D1411DDC; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 14:44:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <46193826.6040907@emailrob.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:44:54 +0100 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: soralx@cydem.org References: <46180F62.6040309@emailrob.com> <20070407200406.5027ca8b@soralx.cydem.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: fbsd_chat Subject: Re: [ot] seeking usa vendor of two_year_old technology X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:44:56 -0000 i truly understand. this morning, i decided to procrastinate [ before researching intel's site to identify suitable 945g boards ] by watching a dvd. i tend to buy several dozen at a time so that they are available when i am, rather than hoping to "get lucky" with the cable tv channels. "copacabana", 1947, republic pictures, groucho marx, carmen miranda, 91 minutes, b/w [ this --should-- have been in technicolor ]. i had forgotten just how funny this is. anyway, what's relevant to this discussion is the coincidence that, after i removed the plastic wrapper, i found a few remnants of a previous plastic wrapper. ok - people return things [ btw, the dvd is fine ]. but [ this is what i don't like about mail order ], it's like forrest gump's box of chocolates. was it returned working or broken ? think about the socket contacts on the board. does the vendor return the broken stuff or do they re_wrap it ? sometimes it isn't easy to find out. until a couple of years ago, there was a reliable local firm who supplied parts. i kept buying from them. they have decided to go into the custom server market, so they are no longer available for what i want. the big_box stores do "consumer electronics". they are good for blank disks. in the long run [ end of '07 ? ], i'm just going to have to become a reseller/integrator, as part of the concept i'm launching in june. in the short run, maybe i'll get lucky and discover that, when people return to the office on monday, a reader of this list can assist with procurement. thanks for the input. thanks especially for the story; i like stories. rob soralx@cydem.org wrote: >>i --did-- find one vendor, "ncix", >>[...] > > > I'm not saying "stay away", but... [ snip ] > ... BTW, at the same time someone was also returning faulty memory stix ... [ snip ] > ... got a card that Just Works. ah, yes; the Holy Grail [ sometimes, we actually find it ]. > Maybe the bright color LEDs on fans (WTF???) > made it all look in rose-colored light. i believe these to be popular with the teeny_boppers. they are easily impressed.