From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jun 30 18: 0:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0920E37B403 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 82325 invoked by uid 100); 1 Jul 2001 01:00:06 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15166.30230.686762.281628@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 20:00:06 -0500 To: Don Wilde Cc: Mike Meyer , Giorgos Keramidas , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux markets (Was: Microsoft giving back to FreeBSD !!) In-Reply-To: <3B3E6941.C822FFB3@Silver-Lynx.com> References: <3B3A2E2F.A74DDCC8@pitt.edu> <3B3A2ECF.6FECA0E3@Silver-Lynx.com> <20010630061123.E20203@hades.hell.gr> <3B3DD475.B44E9882@Silver-Lynx.com> <15166.21045.915907.930733@guru.mired.org> <3B3E6941.C822FFB3@Silver-Lynx.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don Wilde types: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > Don Wilde types: > > > The reality is that the Linux/BSD/BEos/XXX market IS tiny > > > except for those outside the "West", and they don't pay cash. > > "Tiny" doesn't mean "worthless". Adobe is still developing and > > maintaining Frame for Solaris, HP-UX and AIX, at least on non-intel > > hardware. The the Windows and MacIntosh versions may be required to > > make the Unix version pay for itself. > Granted, but Solaris and HP-UX and AIX users are used to paying for s/w, > and have been brainwashed into believing that payware is going to be > better than freeware. As have their bosses who approve the invoices. Well, used to and willing to pay for software, yes. Brainwashed about payware? Maybe some of them, but certainly not all. Apache gets used on a lot of web servers running those OS's. I was pretty sure the Linux port of Frame was dead from the beginning. It isn't going to create any new commercial users, as those people will already have platforms it runs on. So the target market is the home user - and it's an expensive bit of software for the home, even at the Windows price point. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message