From owner-freebsd-security Fri Apr 19 15: 7: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from zoot.corp.yahoo.com (zoot.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0256E37B400 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoot.corp.yahoo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoot.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3JM73HW017199; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (dougb@localhost) by zoot.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g3JM72fK017196; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:07:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zoot.corp.yahoo.com: dougb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-X-Sender: dougb@zoot.corp.yahoo.com To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: security@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip In-Reply-To: <20020419221445.B84400@mail.webmonster.de> Message-ID: <20020419145828.K17023-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > i just wanted to point out that not everyone in the community is a coder > demigod, but a lot of people come up with good ideas. you're perfectly > right with that statement above, because code simply doesn't write > itself. Personally, I fall cleanly into the non "coder demigod" camp. I'm functional in C, but I doubt that I'll ever attain the heights that many in the project have. But that never stopped me from contributing. I contributed what skills I do have for a long time before I got a commit bit. Nowadays, I maintain some ports, clean up PR stuff when I can, twiddle /etc... submit mostly aesthetic 3 line patches to things I care about... basically, a lot of the piddly stuff that has to happen in order to keep things functional. I also keep threatening to write some documentation, but never seem to find the time. My point is that whatever your level of experience, you CAN contribute to the project if you want to. Even if your only contribution is ideas for improvements that are based on your level of experience, because we need that too. I long ago forgot what it was like to be a new FreeBSD user, even though I still focus on interface design because it's something I have some skill/interest in. What you(pl.) CAN'T do, is sit on the sidelines and log grenades in periodically about how the project is not responsive to your needs. Both becase that's not how things work, and because it's not true. We DO have a response. The response is, do it your self and quit whining about it. :) > and, yes, in my spare time i am currently experiencing quite a steep > learning curve in understanding netbsd's/freebsd's make system, and > emacs, Eeekk.. stop learning emacs asap, before it corrupts your brain. :) > > Do YOU Yahoo!? > > no, i google ;-) That's cool, they are one of our partners. :) -- "We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory." - George W. Bush, President of the United States State of the Union, January 28, 2002 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message