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Thu, 30 May 2019 08:50:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.6-555-g49357e1-fmstable-20190528v2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <36da7161-b304-4456-8027-d12eba2ac217@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4259DD93-00E2-4EB6-A1C3-DC4CBCEDD34C@getsomewhere.net> References: <4259DD93-00E2-4EB6-A1C3-DC4CBCEDD34C@getsomewhere.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:50:06 +0000 From: "Dave Cottlehuber" <dch@skunkwerks.at> To: "Joe Love" <joe@getsomewhere.net>, erlang@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deploying program on erlang runtime 21 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A6DE7872BC X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-erlang@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Support of Erlang-related ports <freebsd-erlang.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-erlang>, <mailto:freebsd-erlang-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-erlang/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-erlang@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-erlang-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-erlang>, <mailto:freebsd-erlang-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:50:18 -0000 On Wed, 29 May 2019, at 20:31, Joe Love wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve been trying to wrap my head around creating my Elixir-bas= ed=20 > projects on my client workstations (which are not freebsd) and=20 > deploying them to a FreeBSD server using the erlang-runtime-21 package= . >=20 > I think I=E2=80=99m a bit lost somewhere on it, and am hoping to get s= ome guidance here. >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve created my project on my mac. I=E2=80=99ve added Distill= ery (per many=20 > suggestions & guides). If I understand everything correctly, I can=E2= =80=99t=20 > include ERTS, as that=E2=80=99s the part which is compiled based on th= e host=20 > OS. Therefore, I modified my Distillery config to not include ERTS in= =20 > the production build, and then ran `mix release --env=3Dprod`. >=20 > I uploaded the resulting _build/dev/rel/myproject to the FreeBSD serve= r=20 > which has erlang-runtime-21 on it. > I set my path to include /usr/local/lib/erlang21/bin, added=20 > ERTS_LIB_DIR =3D /usr/local/lib/erlang21/erts-10.3 and tried to run it= . =20 > Apparently I have erts-10.1 on my machine and the server had erts-10.3= ,=20 > so it seems that that also needs to match. >=20 > So, given all of this, I remember being told that while the lang/erlan= g=20 > port was older, that I could always use the runtime ports, and things=20= > would work. Can someone fill me in on how they're supposed to work? =20= > It seems like things are more intricate regarding running beam-vm-base= d=20 > programs on a different machine than that you=E2=80=99re building it o= n. >=20 > Thanks, > -Joe Hey Joe, welcome. I deploy to FreeBSD with Elixir & distillery 2.0 without any is= sues.=20 The simple fix is to move off OSX to FreeBSD like I did and then this pr= oblem goes away ;-). TLDR: build your releases on the same OS+package as your deploy target. If you unpack the .tar.gz that distillery creates, you'll see inside a .= /releases/ folder. the RELEASES and *.rel and start_erl.data all specify explicit v= ersions of runtime and related libraries. If your Mac-based OTP release is *exac= tly* the same as the FreeBSD one, *and* you have no NIFs, then it's possible to get this working. IMHO getting cross-compilation etc sorted isn't worth it when you can build in a jail anyway. I then create FreeBSD packages from the distille= ry release, and simply pkg-install those. I'll write this up and post a link to it tomorrow on how to do this, it'= s too long to fit in an email. details: 1. always build releases on the same OS+arch+BEAM+packages as you intend to deploy to. Cross-building is possible but surprisingly tricky.= If the patch versions are different, stuff may not start. erts (Erlang RunTime System) has different patch levels and point releas= es. The OTP 21 runtime on your Mac may not be the same one you're deploying to. The FreeBSD ones have just this week been updated and moved to a much easier-to-update system (thanks olgeni@ ) so we should be staying pretty= up to date with official releases now. We have OTP21,22 and Elixir 1.8.2= Right now, that's 21.3.8.2 which has different modules from the original= OTP 21.0 shipped months ago - asn1, crypto, kernel, ssl, stdlib, & more have all evolved. Your mac built release probably won't have the same modules on it, and the releas= e is *very* specific about what it requires. 2. if you have NIF modules (native C code) then this definitely won't wo= rk as the linked libraries aren't remotely compatible. 3. Every time the lang/erlang-* port is updated, you'll need to rebuild = your application (if you're not including erts). =20 A+ Dave