From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jan 2 6:31: 6 2001 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 2 06:31:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F6FD37B400 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 06:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 69310 invoked by uid 1003); 2 Jan 2001 14:30:55 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:30:55 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: OT: silence as an answer? (was: how to test out cron.c changes?) Message-ID: <20010102163055.A65068@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200011191816.KAA81473@freefall.freebsd.org> <20001119214008.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001120143658.B4415@netmode.ece.ntua.gr> <20001120193326.C27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001205225656.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001220211548.T253@speedy.gsinet> <3A513799.75EAB470@FreeBSD.org> <20010102125247.U253@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010102125247.U253@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 12:52:47PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/nbm/ Sender: nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue 2001-01-02 (12:52), Gerhard Sittig wrote: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 18:06 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > > Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > > > > > [ ... reminder after two weeks of silence ... ] > > > > Two weeks of silence is generally enough to let you know that > > no one is interested in this modification. If someone was, > > they'd generally have said something by now. > > Well, I don't come to the same conclusion here as you do and I'm > not so sure about it as you are. :) Silence as I see it is just > a sign for "nobody answered", without a reason to see why. It > could be work load or being offline or getting side tracked or > whatever as well as being not interested or disagreeing. And > finally I want to take the lack of disagreement (or the absence > of its statement) as a sign for "it's not completely wrong what I > want to do here". I tend to agree here - silence could mean many things. In this case, I can't see why people wouldn't want this - it's something that gets brought up time and again. > The experience will make me think twice next time if I'm in the > mood of spending my resources in the will to help and contribute > just to find myself sitting there ignored. Would I really feel > like having this kind of conversation, I could as well open my > fridge and talk to it ... :-| I think we can put this current silence down to holidays and getting sidetracked while trying to think of a reply - the question isn't particularly easy to answer, and people don't generally answer "I don't know". (: I remember reading this, and thinking "gee, what _is_ a good way to test DST changes?", and then promptly forgetting about it, because I never really deal with DST changes. I think the only way is the hard way - changing the date in increments and testing whether extra or no jobs are run. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message