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Date:      Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:01:07 -0700
From:      Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
To:        Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Installing on zx6000
Message-ID:  <97D695A7-DAE0-4054-8958-1F4DB0EBDCEC@xcllnt.net>
In-Reply-To: <20120703112755.GA39761@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>
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On Jul 3, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 08:36:49AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
>>> Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]...
>>> Entering /boot/kernel/kernel at 0x9ffc000000010500...
>>> ***********************************************************
>>> * ROM Version : 02.31
>>> * ROM Date    : 03/11/2004
>>> * BMC Version :  01.53
>>> ***********************************************************
>> 
>> I can possibly explain this one, having bitten by it myself:
>> 
>> Starting with loader 3.0, we support having the kernel linked
> 
> yes, I thought this might be related to the new loader.
> In this case it should be possible to install an older
> release/snapshot, with the older loader (how old?
> 7-stable? 8-stable?) and then update via svn, right?

All you need is a kernel that doesn't use the PBVM. That should
be an 8-stable kernel IIRC. The loader is fine.

>> If this is indeed the bug, then all you need to do is pre-
>> load some module. It doesn't matter which one. This has the
>> effect that "kernend" moves into the next 64K page and you
>> don't hit the bug.
> 
> Are the modules included in the -release iso image?
> So I can just load them from the loader prompt?

ispfw is on the ISO. That should do the trick.


>>> uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>>> uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
>>> uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered
>>> da0 at mpt0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0
>>> ***********************************************************
>>> * ROM Version : 02.31
>>> * ROM Date    : 03/11/2004
>>> * BMC Version :  01.53
>>> ***********************************************************
>> 
>> This one could be related to the USB stack. If it is, then it
>> means you have a CD in the DVD drive and all you need to do
>> is eject the disc. If you don't have a disc in the CD drive
> 
> Sure I do. I'm installing from a CD image.

Ok.

> I'm not sure I can take the CD out before
> the boot is complete, can I?

You should be able to. As an experiment, try to boot verbose
(this prints a lot more stuff and may impact timing) or boot
with -a. -a tells the kernel to ask for the root mount and
can also introduce a "breather". At the rootmount prompt,
type "dot" with enter to have the kernel work for a second.
Do this until you have /dev/cd0.


> Maybe when 
> 
> Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
> 
> prompt appears? Or does the boot process still
> involves copying from the CD at this point?

The loader may be trying to read /etc/fstab at that point, but it's
ok if that fails. So yes this should be a good point.

Anyway: I was hoping noone would be bitten by it and it was just on
my particular machine. This is getting too visible for me to put off.

-- 
Marcel Moolenaar
marcel@xcllnt.net





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