From nobody Wed May 28 09:59:37 2025 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b6lN95jskz5xFpX; Wed, 28 May 2025 09:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b6lN94zhgz3MZY; Wed, 28 May 2025 09:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1748426377; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=er1QX9JkpsrdfTiiBvRvxEsRqpymXWrC1pJ+Ns1GwSI=; b=qSjlX1rnnFXknBWl+iAl4kAyc/Rsdz5LY/L8pdLZYGIh0AH4YA92FBhnbSzYaZkFj27AIS 4zx24ADzrgAl/TLAjPOo7p8feVwXspPKt90S3Jhtp+8xSPflaUo+VJiZaOEavAA9hgviB4 3MySQ+qRGenCMFKoxCJaf8eTTHZhrQNOl1xqkVsTCwZbHSnpXNWDaymmErlr5UYjeuTuyo /OIEy4lQwBI/xl30SYWVbO/4CYfqeRDh7Lc3GYaZdY3Dv14TYUnz/fBRpVWqVw78TPMghq hf6wDK/v0AtbUe2uExI2caX9DONm7fRnM6nINuqpQWbQhlzFK/HVE2VH6huKlg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1748426377; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=YIM/ER4jv2mDralzc9KY4RDm1t/D3r50CC/nDNrPVeux4oRlUkXt68O0/01t5JzJkBO0xj 0KB9pQfiKy0Bxw5hoc9Mkztam/uUJHIBOHX4DruZmcSY0Tk6LZmU5c7QuIoZRiqt7DzRVy f/wOdtz7YpI/3liZDjBX72M1HPNmhu80a6ACVT4qNAlGsf8cJZ3/UyS8Siv0bq7U8/xGIZ raGeZyPzfdCMeAPm1S13Gbfd2GKuKe7eKG25OfKpCVtimQDvKzXRldvnyARsnwaAud8nce Y2xewnt4AL25WYShOQrQCYchELo7enfZWegCqpNMKnBsRTWAPiHNkHtmbNIxMQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1748426377; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=er1QX9JkpsrdfTiiBvRvxEsRqpymXWrC1pJ+Ns1GwSI=; b=qX3DwY91txZAEPAWSwp3CzUvU7TdeATKv5L4Z9jNcGpDM3kJ+VZIylwGhuBQaKXLe/h+8p 9o/Syr1UAPid7++b3o6i4P6fxtD/SnY+d2+wnzmIYScBuhqTkXLmuuoCbCtD23me50xaAT sOzfOgcaMgakMHVs+Kc21WwJ4Bt+xOChCFUWXne0IyUceiwVO5lcnP2fwcEDay1OAUt4jP ajtvVbw1nRySHRfWP+r7s03d2L2sf1CadxGljUHRaspoQGBKy7XI9s8OFtKOFjedk7Myd9 /tu3W3Eg1DpkKN4U+kZocXBYGKRJ8eaddxSJPwX0If9mwqSIlt189xVb4+KXJg== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1532) id A26B35A21; Wed, 28 May 2025 09:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 10:59:37 +0100 From: Lexi Winter To: Ronald Klop Cc: pkgbase@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Ronald Klop , pkgbase@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org References: <1106157033.1339.1748414263174@localhost> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2AO2UilA7nu86TTi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1106157033.1339.1748414263174@localhost> --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Ronald Klop: > This makes me think of the /usr/ports/MOVED construction. Maybe > something similar can be useful for base pkgs. ideally this isn't something we want to be doing on an ongoing basis. at the moment there are a number of files that are installed in the wrong package by accident (usually in -utilities, because that's the default package) or that are deliberately installed in -utilities but would be better in their own package. i'm trying to fix all of these prior to the 15.0 release so that people who install a release version don't have to deal with this. if we want to do something like this again after 15.0-RELEASE then we will need to come up with a better solution. we could also do with some sort of metapackage / package groups system, so you can easily install a workload like "development tools" and also get new packages for that workload when you upgrade... i believe the pkg(8) people are working on something like this, or at least would like to work on it if they have time :-) --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaDbehgAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YNp7AP4vA9dxrva2/tTq+8FuIIPEXEnriF5N5YQ/e01NFPO1WwEAzNi3qUkQj73Y 6/a/6TVACxaOpUXUO8p8p08zFrJeuwg= =aHEv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi--