From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 19:15:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501B637B401; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9162543FB1; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:15:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [66.92.104.201] (g4.reppep.com [66.92.104.201]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8DAFDAA; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:15:47 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3464BCFE-4FD2-11D7-A6E7-000393BB8320@southampton.liu.edu> <20030308043937.M79531@freebsdmall.com> <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:06:59 -0500 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: OS X vs. Darwin Cc: Murray Stokely , jared nied , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They're not quite identical, but extremely close. Basically, Mac OS X is Darwin + proprietary bits (Quartz, Carbon, Cocoa, QuickTime, various encumbered drivers, etc.). More detail is available at ("A Brief Review of the State of Darwin") and (Q2). For the patch, it should be "Mac OS X", not "MacOS X". Chris Pepper At 8:30 AM +1030 2003/03/10, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >On Saturday, 8 March 2003 at 4:39:37 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:50:27AM -0500, jared nied wrote: >>> You say in 'Explaining BSD' that OS X is a closed-source BSD, with only >>> the kernel open-sourced. Darwin is an entirely functional BSD OS for >>> x86 and PPCs >> .. >> >> How about this diff? Greg? > >Hmm. I'll leave it for others to decide, but my understanding is that >Darwin and the lower levels of Mac OS X are *not* identical, that you >can't replace one with the other for example. Is this correct? If >so, the text below as it stands is incorrect. > >Greg > >> Index: article.sgml >> =================================================================== >> RCS file: /a/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.sgml,v >> retrieving revision 1.6 >> diff -u -r1.6 article.sgml >> --- article.sgml 23 Oct 2001 21:31:18 -0000 1.6 >> +++ article.sgml 8 Mar 2003 12:38:50 -0000 >> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ >> - >> + >> >> >> >Extension//EN" [ >> @@ -437,9 +437,15 @@ >> Mac OS >> X is the latest version of the operating system for >> Apple Computer Inc.'s >> - Macintosh line. Unlike the rest of the operating system, the >> - kernel is open source. As part of this development, key Apple >> - developers have commit access to the FreeBSD source tree. >> + Macintosh line. The BSD Unix core of this operating >> + system, > + url="http://developer.apple.com/darwin/">Darwin, >> + is available as a fully functional open source operating >> + system for x86 and PPC computers. The Aqua/Quartz >> + graphics system and many other proprietary aspects of >> + MacOS X remain closed-source, however. Several Darwin >> + developers are also FreeBSD committers, and >> + vice-versa. >> >> >> >> > > > >-- >See complete headers for address and phone numbers > >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >Attachment converted: cPod:Untitled 2 (????/----) (00014D74) -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message