From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 08:56:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFBF106564A; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 08:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lstewart@freebsd.org) Received: from lauren.room52.net (lauren.room52.net [210.50.193.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F708FC08; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 08:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lstewart1.loshell.room52.net (ppp59-167-184-191.static.internode.on.net [59.167.184.191]) by lauren.room52.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E9927E84A; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:56:36 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <4EABBFC4.9060807@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:56:36 +1100 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111016 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kostik Belousov References: <20111023230634.GA47508@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <87ty6z2ofd.fsf@FreeBSD.org> <20111024040703.GA42523@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <4EA51C45.3060108@FreeBSD.org> <4EABB854.2070606@freebsd.org> <20111029084744.GH50300@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <20111029084744.GH50300@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lauren.room52.net Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Raphael Kubo da Costa , Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: KWin no longer compositing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 08:56:39 -0000 On 10/29/11 19:47, Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 07:24:52PM +1100, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >> On 10/24/11 19:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>> on 24/10/2011 07:07 Greg Lewis said the following: >>>> So it seems like even the newest version we support in ports is an >>>> antique :(. I'm going to guess upgrading it is not going to be easy. >>> >>> Almost trivial in a sense. >>> I've been using xorg-dev for quite a while and it works great (for me). >>> Mesa is >>> at 7.11 in those ports. >>> >>> http://trillian.chruetertee.ch/ports/wiki >>> >> >> I too no longer have compositing in KDE 4.7.2 where I used to with >> 4.6.x. Is there a technical reason the newer MESA hasn't been merged >> into mainline ports? Or is it purely a manpower thing? > > There is newer Mesa in xorg-dev. See the instructions at > http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2011/02/cft-xorg-7-5-miwi1-freebsd-edition/ Thanks for the pointer. > There is a rat nest of the system dependencies and ddx/xorg server > versions that makes the update really tricky. Until GEMified i915.ko > is not committed to the src/, the Intel GPUs will not work, I believe. > Also, it seems that Mesa 7.11 is the last release that will work > for Radeon DRM that lacks TTM and execution support. I use Radeon so I guess it's an interim update which will get things going in the short term followed by hoping someone capable of doing the TTM support for it comes forward. Do you have a feel for just how much time would be involved in doing the required work to get the radeon driver up to scratch? Does your work for the Intel GPUs lay some common groundwork which will reduce the work required to update other drivers like radeon? (It is clear I have no concept about how all the moving parts fit together or what's involved in getting all drivers into shape for "the future" i.e. KMS). Cheers, Lawrence