From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 2 2:16:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D33837B417 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 02:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-176.wobline.de [212.68.69.184]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id g02AGDj05701; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:16:14 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (poison.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.5]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g02AGbX05816; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:16:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g02AGFp01514; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:16:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:15:39 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Joe & Fhe Barbish , Cliff Sarginson , FBSD Questions Subject: Re: Modem Support Message-ID: <20020102111539.B1341@tisys.org> References: <200201020053.g020rhd14606@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201020053.g020rhd14606@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 04:53:43PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD poison.ncptiddische.net 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 10:55AM up 5 mins, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 04:53:43PM -0800, Kevin Oberman stood up and spoke: > > Sorry, but I'm afraid not. Plug nd Play is defined by Wintel to be a > method of allowing auto-configuration of ISA cards and is defined such > by BIOS, which is where it is largely implemented and by FreeBSDs > PNPBIOS kernel option. > > It is true that PCI cards are auto-configurable in most cases, but that > is not what the term PNP refers to in the PC (I386) hardware world. AFAIK, ISA-PnP came a short time after PCI. Basically, since with PCI everything worked so fine by only plugging the card into your machine and it'd get set up correctly automatically, Microsoft and Intel got together to create a similar system for ISA. Thus, ISA-PnP was born. Where in the past you used jumpers (and then manually told your OS what you selected with these jumpers), ISA-PnP cards can be more or less automatically detected these days, although there sometimes still are problems. When PCI was first introduced with its autoconfiguration capabilities, I guess nobody used the words "plug-and-play". These were "invented" in order to try to tell people how esay Windows 95 was to use (?), by basically labelling every hardware component as "PnP". Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message