From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 13:28:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18F768B1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com (mail-ig0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8D0B270 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iggg4 with SMTP id g4so17238907igg.0 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HsR17g1/a+I8qgtY+Mu7eHYA1WrkjPek6hN+Fn640Wo=; b=uBxyDczY7Spw4kWaJc2U9x2qwlNFH4IbxpoPkYBEMpdRtvVJq+C35qyonRzwuXairf 2XQ2XZXV7i+zYrJrnaXp4NfMdE/wCkQISGLYXUyBUO6/QsP0rU/Z2bBLX1J+FVO7bKNU AxCvatfFqMM3L5QM29JAskF/RrR0+PfK4C3dCyPHY+RInX6c0SxnjRHdYdf1MLYMxHPB 8ZjbH0tS+dcmJQQpZqwNBimEg5wRYS5UP+cVv35CSC6ISQ4wXjSNrT/Hqkj5dOvZwwzu j0q4AgFRQBacBVUez2zzxzPe0KHorGzZ/ieJiPO4myTIINYJvze5MCfUwwQQ++f0Xa4p KUHQ== X-Received: by 10.107.11.81 with SMTP id v78mr9569026ioi.66.1428758894129; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.5] (cpe-76-190-244-6.neo.res.rr.com. [76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f11sm1215571iod.7.2015.04.11.06.28.13 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55292175.3000308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:28:21 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Kulawiec Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> <20150410181255.GA2891@gsp.org> In-Reply-To: <20150410181255.GA2891@gsp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:28:15 -0000 Rich Kulawiec wrote: > This may be well-intentioned, but it demonstrates a nearly-complete > lack of understanding of how spammers' address-harvesters work. > > The techniques in use in the field are very sophisticated and unlikely to > be defeated by anyone who hasn't spent at least a decade studying them > in detail. (And even then: probably not. The existence of hundreds of > millions of 'bots changed the game markedly and there is no undoing that.) > > The ONLY reasonable course of action, at this point, is to presume that > all email addresses are either (a) in the hands of spammers or (b) will > be in their hands soon, and plan defenses accordingly. Any other approach > is doomed to fail and should be instantly dismissed with prejudice: the > only people it will impede in the slightest are non-spammers. > > ---rsk Doesn't take 10 years of study to know that any email address visible on a public website is a target for harvesting. http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ shows the ports maintainers email address. The ports maintainers email address should not be part of the Makefile, but should should stay in the ports manual.