From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 13 17:15:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail19a.dulles19-verio.com (mail19a.dulles19-verio.com [161.58.134.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E83D37B419 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 198.104.176.109 (198.104.176.109) by mail19a.dulles19-verio.com (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 057447430; Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3CB8C9D3.CF6ADBEF@pythonemproject.com> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:14:11 -0700 From: rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Krueger Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Bob Bomar , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: overclocking and freebsd References: <20011110215343.C961@bsd.alexe.org> <20020411182041.H45395@darius.2y.net> <20020411200534.A25472@ns.museum.rain.com> <20020412042041.GA80748@peitho.fxp.org> <20020412144054.GB2610@hades.hell.gr> <3CB770F2.3043929E@pythonemproject.com> <20020412170145.E9962@rain.macguire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Benjamin Krueger wrote: > > * rob (rob@pythonemproject.com) [020412 16:44]: > > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > > > [Moved to -chat since this is no longer a "question" :)] > > > > > > On 2002-04-12 00:20, Bob Bomar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > FreeBSD pushes the hardware pretty hard as it is. I would bet you > > > > > a dozen doughnuts that FreeBSD at 850 MHz will outperform Win2k at > > > > > 1 GHz. > > > > > > > > I will actually prove that. My P-166 running 4.4-Release, apache, > > > > postfix, mysql, and DNS ran faster than my PII-400 running just a > > > > base Win 98. I mean faster as in, it started up faster, and it ran > > > > Star Office faster, did i metion that the P-166 was running X? > > > > > > That's a highly subjective metric though. My FreeBSD machine feels a > > > lot more responsive than those Windows XP machines with faster CPUs a > > > and larger amounts of RAM I've seen friends work on. But how does one > > > define an objective metric of 'responsiveness'? > > > > > > Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project > > > keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > > > > > I do a lot of number crunching, and FreeBSD (and Linux) usability beats > > Windows NT&2K by a huge factor when running ordinary applications > > overtop of a simulation. I think it is superior memory management that > > does it. Windows almost seems like its locked up in these situations, > > until the sim stops and then things go back to normal. Fortunately, I > > do not have XP to do that comparison :) Rob. > > I'd like to take this opportunity to note that this is an excellent example of > how subjective usability measurements are to the task you're performing, and > how you've configured and tuned the machine in question. I've worked on > sluggish and speedy workstations of the linux, freebsd, and win2k variety. In > all cases a little intelligent tuning and understanding of what my task was > really doing to the machine usually brought usability to a reasonable, if not > better, state. > > As we step into the performance comparison arena, we see a sign; > "Here be dragons. Tread on ye foolhardy and rehearse your laments." > > -- > Benjamin Krueger > > "Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about." > - Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Send mail w/ subject 'send public key' or query for (0x251A4B18) > Fingerprint = A642 F299 C1C1 C828 F186 A851 CFF0 7711 251A 4B18 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message How do you tune Win2K? Or NT4? Rob. -- ----------------------------- The Numeric Python EM Project www.pythonemproject.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message