From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 23 12:21:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289A5D18BD3 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.home.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0A6B1FA1 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v2NCLHEn052533; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:21:17 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: how do I get STARTTLS working with sendmail on FreeBSD 10.3 ? To: Jim Ohlstein , William Dudley References: <378051e6-d075-c00c-066d-e6240583ea59@ohlste.in> <8CDAF29F-034A-4BC5-8727-4EC0B39331F6@ohlste.in> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:21:17 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDAF29F-034A-4BC5-8727-4EC0B39331F6@ohlste.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:21:22 -0000 On 23/03/2017 03:25, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > Your entire question is ridiculous since Sendmail will never be > useful for retrieving email from a remote server. Ever. To do that > you need a POP/IMAP server. That was my point. Still is. If you'd been paying attention you'd have noticed lines in his mail like > telnet localhost 25 which is rather a clue that he's talking about the sending side rather than the receiving side. > I only suggested you consider another agent since this one is > proving difficult for you to configure. I never said you "had to" do > anything, but you will need more than Sendmail to use your phone's > email client. I'm sure he's aware of this, but is having problems *sending* mail securely via SMTP and sendmail. > But keep going, you're doing great. Quite possibly a little better than some other people. [Much snippage] >>> "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain [Except for that. :-)] -- By June 1949, people had begun to realize that it was not so easy to get a program right as had at one time appeared. It was on one of my journeys between the EDSAC room and the punching equipment that the realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs. -- Maurice Wilkes