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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 70sm9392604qkk.10.2020.06.09.03.05.07 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 09 Jun 2020 03:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49h5Ml035Pz1gFq for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 06:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 06:05:03 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <20200609060503.00005548@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <20200608051434.ca70e5c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200608050415.GA92414@geeks.org> <7dd4776b-4326-fa9c-cd2f-2b59ca4e8e50@freenetMail.de> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/FfqyPxb759vSKXCOJo_jctI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49h5Mp6mtBz4Bdb X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=e0ySlBC+; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.75 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.225.250:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.020]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.36)[0.359]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 10:05:11 -0000 --Sig_/FfqyPxb759vSKXCOJo_jctI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 21:21:05 -0500, Valeri Galtsev commented: >> On Jun 8, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Wesley wrote: >>=20 >> May I ask a question, is it possible for freeBSD community to >> develop a nice GUI like Mac OSX? current opensource desktop like KDE >> is not behaving as well as OSX in my opinion.=20 > >This nice GUI like MacOS=E2=80=99s is not necessarily nice in everybody=E2= =80=99s >opinion. I for one would prefer Mate Desktop. There are several >different DEs (Desktop Environments) which I may not like as I didn=E2=80= =99t >blend into iPad generation, but that may be considered quite >comparable to MacOS=E2=80=99s one. Still, compared to MS Widows MacOS's is >nicer (my subjective opinion), yet still there is one thing about both >of them: you can not choose =E2=80=9Cdock area=E2=80=9D on left, on right = (speaking >about MS Windows), and you can not remove Apple top bar (=E2=80=9Ctop is >reserved for mighty Apple=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D). So, Xwindow based DEs cover = much wider >spectrum of tastes IMHO.=20 > >But if there is something specific you are after, you can try to >describe it, and I bet with so many Experts on this list, you can hear >viable advise. > >Valeri > >> Thanks. >>=20 >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: =20 >>> MacOS departs farther and farther away from BSD=E2=80=A6 so some time a= go I >>> scratched MacOS from my list of =E2=80=9CUNIXes=E2=80=9D. Administering= server on >>> MacOS became unbearable for me. I still tell all Mac laptop owners: >>> the beauty of MacOS is that you have nice GUI, and UNIX under the >>> hood. =20 Valeri, are you sure about that 'docking on left' statement. I have read several articles on exactly how to do it in Win 10. I am not sure about older versions though. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/FfqyPxb759vSKXCOJo_jctI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl7fXtEACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQwkQgAqd7PdYsWXULgWmRLUzL6DlcDpagB+OuoZe+fIsiP5YCcZnaM2Cflrnj7 8eStaYJlOuiE3H27cSeYEIz6955a2G8T4H8NJHlyokdgFaljyaychPwsKk1zeGW0 2CUEhd4kM54kgcMulOTjP+NmNJcCS+wmR3zkywgvpbuGAX12GqY9DjlL9BIpo6IC Kffy9loBk2ifBbXxK6EGtHHM7mgVeQfrxOc/6B8GvkF24p6gxyPrcSHx1M8DupkE 3tEazqggrM7V5KqGE/dSB2yq/leBrMRufyxfyWTRrCtzSOvvIVHuw4+zlp2kvdlW 87Xty0ndfjDdY6e4NsC8eD+AgakXtw== =Z/AF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/FfqyPxb759vSKXCOJo_jctI--