From owner-freebsd-security Sun Dec 10 21:43:33 2000 From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 21:43:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from master.mddsg.com (cc721767-a.hwrd1.md.home.com [24.180.128.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA6637B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from galifrey (dyn4 [192.168.2.204]) by master.mddsg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA25850; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:43:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from erickson@mddsg.com) Message-ID: <005801c06335$4b35afc0$cc02a8c0@columbia.mentis.org> From: "David Erickson" To: "Daniel Hauer" , References: <3A3457AA.7507D386@enter.net> Subject: Re: MAC Address Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:43:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hauer" To: Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: Re: MAC Address > Mikhail Kruk wrote: > > > > I'd want to do it because at our university there are plugs for laptops on > > DHCP network, but DHCP server knows everyone's MAC address so all my > > activity is logged when I use it. Changing my MAC address would open some > > interesting posiblities. > > >From a purely theoretical point of view, of course. > > > > > Dave, > > > Sounds to me all this is just_slightly_unethical_if > _not_bordering_on_illegal. This is a topic for a security mailing list? > I thought we were here to boost network security, not circumvent it. > Just a network technician's opinion. How is it unethical to change ones MAC address? First of all a MAC address is only used on your local LAN segment. MAC Addresses do not traverse over IP. Once your traffic hits a router the traffic is then relayed. ARP is used on individual segments to locate the MAC address that is answering for certain IP's. I just want to implement some redundancy on my cablemodem for some of the services I provide. Thus if I have a way to replace the MAC address like i can on Nokia's IPSO 3.2.1 or Sun or HP 9000's on PC hardware then i can have an entirely different standby machine assume that MAC address if it doesn't hear an answer from the other machine. > > -- > Regards, > Daniel Hauer. > http://www.enter.net "The Road To The Internet Starts There!" > *************************************************************************** > Windoze is for GAMES, UNIX is for the rest of us. > UNIX is like the sights on a loaded gun. If you aim the gun > at your foot and pull the trigger, it is the basic function of > UNIX to accurately deliver the bullet from the gun to the > target. In this case, it's your foot. > *************************************************************************** > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message