From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jun 23 21:41:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23995 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23957 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20538; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806240440.AAA20538@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: option MROUTING References: <199806232038.NAA23308@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:38:24 PDT." <199806232038.NAA23308@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:40:51 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The question of mbone capable PC Unix systems keeps coming up on > the mbone mailing list. Linux is a little bit behind however it > is catching to FreeBSD in terms of mbone and audio /video conferencing > tools . The first step for wider MBONE deployment is for the PCs > whether they run Unix or WinXX is for them to be MBONE capable > by clueless users . The server side (mrouted) you are correct > in that the users usually have the sufficient expertise however > on the client side it is an entirely different matter. I think it's important to distinguish between multicast-capable end-system hosts (which FreeBSD pretty much is, out of the box), and systems that operate as multicast routers. The trend more and more is to have the multicast forwarding function reside in routers, with hosts behaving as end-systems only, rather than terminating tunnels. Sure, there's a bunch of people that still terminate DVMRP tunnels in mrouted, but this is becoming less common rather than more. >From my experience, more "MBONE" connections are done with Cisco routers rather than using the (non-scalable) DVMRP/mrouted solution. So, yeah, I think that MROUTING off by default is probably the right answer for more people these days. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message