From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 7 09:53:48 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA20114 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 09:53:48 -0800 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA20106 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 09:53:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA10293; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:52:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199503071752.TAA10293@grunt.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grunt.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: backspace now broken (proposal) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 19:52:22 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is getting _really_ silly now. The conclusion has pretty much been reached that the key should send 0x08 and the key should send 0x7f. Why not just make that the default everywhere. Having system config files to correct your term to the compiled-in default is just plain _stupid_, particularly if the term is a part of the system like a console or an xterm. Sure, if you don't like the standard, you can reconfigure, but then it is up to you to do _both_ the keyboard _and_ the stty. Having a standard half set looks sloppy too. M > > >> >But having to tell new > >> >FreeBSD users that they have to put a 'stty erase ^h' in .login or > >> >.profile of *each and every* user of their system is just plain > >> >unnecessary complication of affairs. > >> Hmm..this can be done by default in default /etc/.cshrc and friends,then > >> those who hate ^H to be erase by default can be happy,and ^H will work... > >> BTW that's the first thing i even do on my systems after installation.. > >> Not only FreeBSD but even SunOS has this problemm... > > >Yes, it can be done, but that would be plain bogus (IMO). We'd have > >to put this in as default, e.g. into /etc/profile and /etc/csh.login. > >This is a *default*. Why kludge it in two places if it can be fixed in > >one. *And* we'd have to deal with the complaints when people open > >xterms without using the -ls option, *and* it wouldn't work in single user > >mode. > > For xterm add: > > *ttyModes: erase ^h > > to your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-default/XTerm file if you want it to > be a system-wide configuration. > > -- > > Kaleb KEITHLEY -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200