From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 14 04:53:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC02106575B for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D428FC15 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so2287413rvb.43 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:53:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/dKPWRfN2I7kagBTSTbLN0jTi3WCA4ZZoNL4l22FzRU=; b=co10pJ1pMJXP3PA9pQZkt4NP/Vy266ZZ4ucoBsI957oiPnD2/LRTa5CUEjcCfmnZsb RecUmNShVqbObJdRQu2SzpOTLvfd7SjE0/wKJXdYY6qYLYAxQPWnd6O1e8v4VF7p7BON +ztCRs0uqYRtdKgLD4JHOQ/u0fD0oljQBvMcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dT70DRamzsGYlFr2Y2NXE3pHJvMd/5EJ3jqcw8BTkvcM9phz+jP4WOV6Qtz5+woUAa P+yYOu+UtOLNjyZGGn6/38ANA+KqF41CvxpE4zR/a446fAmx9k2wbUA+jp9BlBAt+f9I 7gdnGKAFgS/v68XiTP7b4d2wWzltFcgxfKWms= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.106.12 with SMTP id i12mr3054695rvm.59.1239684808569; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:53:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5F58EE61-2E49-4A51-9760-35965DA9BF08@inoc.net> <5635aa0d0904132008t4ae8285due381e5deb791e4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:53:28 +0700 Message-ID: <5635aa0d0904132153u50786dd9v69ac92719d9923c2@mail.gmail.com> From: Outback Dingo To: Charles Sprickman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Robert Blayzor Subject: Re: web hosting best practices X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:53:29 -0000 yes, ispCP being one that i mentioned and OpenPanel are honestly your best bets, especially if using freeside for billing provisioning On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Outback Dingo wrote: > > actually, dont use Cpanel, you can from ports install SysCP or DTC from >> ports/sysutils, or a semi-automated install of ispCP which is quite nice, >> all open source also. which give you mail/dns/web/ftp management. >> > > Yeah, I've recently been looking at the options in that space. My concern > with CPs is that: > > -they do break sometimes, and if you're not up to speed on the whole AMP > stack and the CP, you're done > -regardless of what CP we go with, we will always have a set of customers > that are here because we'll do one-offs for them, and a CP is too > restrictive for that > > That said, the guy that wrote Freeside, which we now use for billing, noted > that these open source CPs all look "interesting": > > GNUPanel http://gnupanel.org/ > OpenPanel http://www.openpanel.com/ > ispCP Omega http://isp-control.net/ > RavenCore http://www.ravencore.com/ > > Thanks, > > Charles > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Robert Blayzor > >wrote: >> >> On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote: >>> >>> That said, most of the information I'm looking for revolves around >>>> security and performance issues, user management, and just what >>>> additional >>>> php and perl modules to offer as standard. Very basic stuff, but I'm >>>> looking for broad outlines and the experience of others... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Might want to save yourself a bunch of trouble and look at something like >>> CPanel. Just install a base FreeBSD 7.x or Linux (ie: CentOS, etc) and >>> away >>> you go. Basically turns the box into an appliance and they have service >>> provider based monthly leasing that's very cost effective. >>> >>> -- >>> Robert Blayzor, BOFH >>> INOC, LLC >>> rblayzor@inoc.net >>> http://www.inoc.net/~rblayzor/ < >>> http://www.inoc.net/%7Erblayzor/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>