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[49.177.162.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id vb6sm4899328pac.16.2016.06.30.04.06.08 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jun 2016 04:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D9914A47-34FF-4C6F-9D8C-7936A67A3B01"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: ath (AR9280) with nanoBSD (fwd) From: Felix Friedlander In-Reply-To: <20160630210043.U11465@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 21:06:05 +1000 Cc: freebsd-wireless@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: References: <20160630210043.U11465@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: Ian Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:06:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D9914A47-34FF-4C6F-9D8C-7936A67A3B01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 30 Jun 2016, at 21:02, Ian Smith wrote: >=20 > Sorry Felix, didn't notice you hadn't cc'd the list .. hoping you = don't=20 > mind if I do, might save someone else from responding .. cheers, Ian Nope, that=E2=80=99s fine, I meant to but I forget all the time. Alpine, mutt and other CLI mail clients manage to do it automatically, = so I wonder how the GUI clients have missed out=E2=80=A6 - Felix >=20 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:52:43 +1000 (EST) > From: Ian Smith > To: Felix Friedlander > Subject: Re: ath (AR9280) with nanoBSD >=20 > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:28:54 +1000, Felix Friedlander wrote: >>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 19:12, Ian Smith wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:51:40 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>>=20 >>>> It's there, it just doesn't show up in ifconfig anymore. >>>>=20 >>>> sysctl net.wlan.devices >>>>=20 >>>> if you create the interface (ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0) = then >>>> it'll show up! >>>=20 >>> Just curious .. why was it considered a good idea not to have = ifconfig=20 >>> show wireless interfaces? Won't this make for ongoing such = confusion? >>=20 >> As I understand it, it was to avoid duplication. You have to create a=20= >> wlanN interface to use a wireless device, so you would end up with=20 >> both athN and wlanN. Now ath (and every other wireless driver) = don=C3=BF=C3=BFt=20 >> directly appear in ifconfig, you only have one interface. >=20 > Ah, that sounds fair enough. I expect there'll be something in 11.0=20= > release notes about that. >=20 >> I believe there is a sysctl to list the hardware devices if you want. >=20 > I guess that might be net.wlan.devices :) >=20 > Ok, sorry for the side-track .. >=20 > cheers, Ian --Apple-Mail=_D9914A47-34FF-4C6F-9D8C-7936A67A3B01 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIVRTCCBHUw ggNdoAMCAQICEEOXQUtz9dNAT9/4o8H24nQwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwdTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwx FjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKTAnBgNVBAsTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24g QXV0aG9yaXR5MSMwIQYDVQQDExpTdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0xNjA2MDEy MTI0MDFaFw0xOTA5MDEyMTI0MDFaMEQxHTAbBgNVBAMMFGZlbGl4cGhldzBAZ21haWwuY29tMSMw IQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhRmZWxpeHBoZXcwQGdtYWlsLmNvbTCBmzAQBgcqhkjOPQIBBgUrgQQAIwOB hgAEAd9iFZSiKobJSFRViu+9sLMgg5zUq9CfxF3DZwJ+iH8xzgBlhUPOxe91JdDWvOkglLgyFClD 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