From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 06:29:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 342525D8; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0.glenbarber.us (mail0.glenbarber.us [208.86.227.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 046411A4E; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:1205:5604:a6ff:fe3a:96ea]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by mail0.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 76800229B5; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:29:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 mail0.glenbarber.us 76800229B5 Authentication-Results: mail0.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 01:29:36 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Darren Pilgrim Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10-RC1 ISO image too big Message-ID: <20131216062936.GM1446@glenbarber.us> References: <20131214095001.GV13385@equilibrium.bsdes.net> <52AD0F73.5050905@ShaneWare.Biz> <20131215105736.51c51073@X220.alogt.com> <52AE9A75.9090209@bluerosetech.com> <20131216062107.GL1446@glenbarber.us> <52AE9CF5.7070408@bluerosetech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nrXiCraHbXeog9mY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52AE9CF5.7070408@bluerosetech.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:29:40 -0000 --nrXiCraHbXeog9mY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:25:57PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 12/15/2013 10:21 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > >On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:15:17PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > >>On 12/14/2013 6:57 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >>>>Any reason you need cd media? > >>> > >>>it is not the CD media, it is simply the bandwidth needed. There are > >>>many FreeBSD people around this globe which do not have the luck of a > >>>100MBit/s connection. Every byte which is not on a media counts here. > >> > >>Your argument doesn't make sense. If they need to minimize downloading, > >>they should down the bootonly image and fetch/create packages for the p= orts > >>they need. Anything else is going to spend bytes downloading things th= ey > >>won't use. > > > >No, bootonly.iso does not contain the base system, so download time will > >be spent on downloading base.txz, kernel.txz, at minimum. >=20 > But that will still be fewer downloaded bytes because the CD image contai= ns > extras they don't need. How? It will contain less bytes (lacking the distribution bits, sure), but we're talking about the *cdrom* here, not *dvdrom*, so packages are not relevant. Glen --nrXiCraHbXeog9mY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSrp3QAAoJELls3eqvi17QgDMP/A51iFlWjkA5Kb6WOqFkkp+5 bvkZsp9wHsHIovu4vHNpEQdHxi4F1dFW3kek7EW5S0dXCrzd6UxMeT1u7zVQdaTn 2HSk0SOFuN+QD/eobByPGouK575BH8Gh7afCt0QXLBFGn2kBCunWpDEkSlO5OrMT rACoexKnPTP9otD0+aabrC+FwHz7FH8rdsQ6nO7hes4Q3bnBU6MltbJuhyD8rDqg Jh4IqsTTSMZwX/G7exZwL7BCd8GVzL62gUY5fEBH9rHXtyHz7XW74sNmjfTOnLdM htmVVDpBQJfpqZCGayylyHlySTt1Ve6VCh7GcEC1AzVZK3N9/d0m2vkj9BHK/j9s From6om6AyaKLCSGCl0rsG7lx5ejCpFVRhylPS73jE2IWQuj6FhpeYvMFrgqd1jF Imoi4u1f0GkDPeX6ecovuHWLLf9zj2N+4nLImYx/m2xUuyaDXwbMpDiXh5f3lUug ae8LU+Onh1g2fB+8RRVQ1F6BGnlT8G0FAP3PMlAhHm3FRkRc2BoXo2Pm0zlPoih7 yk9Af28dt1Y+eq7ccF7cyoeoyZM2quajarlnuQ/5L8QpqH+ScAmjzrOndasAELRw ywN+4oNfPkaZfcGHzJzMJIKTuMUlKhJ/qYnl6NuG3mEjcpwYSFPlpor9bes12d6u BFs7LdAjSKbPSwxyiIL8 =KH/5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nrXiCraHbXeog9mY--