From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Dec 5 12:52:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 5 12:52:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681C637B400 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18479; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:52:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eB5KqMH44344; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:52:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:52:22 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Steve Roome Cc: Donn Miller , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lint Message-ID: <20001205125222.C44179@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001204222001.A25490@mmap.nyct.net> <20001205111025.I22946@moose.bri.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001205111025.I22946@moose.bri.hp.com>; from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:10:25AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:10:25AM +0000, Steve Roome wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 03:20:52AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: > > I've always wondered what happened to the old BSD compiler. From what I > > understand, it falls under AT&T licensing. It also only generated code for VAX and Interdata. When BSD was ported to the hp300's GCC became the CSRG's base compiler. > > I believe a lot of universities (at least Penn State does) offer > > courses in "compiler design and implentation". There ya go. It's a > > good topic for a master's or PhD thesis, plus you could implement a > > new compiler to boot. Get real!! For one thing, a new compiler isn't Ph.D. thesis material. One aspect of a compiler would be -- say a new optimizer, or really revolutionary parser, etc.. Also, now that we have an ISO standard, creating a good quality C compiler (I won't even go into C++) is no longer a one person task -- much less one to be done in 1-2 years (about the max amount of actual creative coding a Ph.D. puts into his thesis). This is way out of the reach of a Masters project. > I assume most university compiler design courses are about the same: Very bad assumption. I've taken three and all where very different. > We did a compiler course in our final year at Uni. It was supposed to ... > In comparison to a real-world compiler, It was a complete load of junk. Exactly. > A bit like some folks who have been writing something called gcc for a > while now. Yep. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message