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Date:      Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:05:20 +0100 (MET)
From:      hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis)
To:        wam@sa.fedex.com (William McVey)
Cc:        freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: I4B support for US ISDN?
Message-ID:  <m1046Ur-00006RC@hcswork.hcs.de>
In-Reply-To: <199901230106.TAA19361@s07.sa.fedex.com> from William McVey at "Jan 22, 99 07:06:35 pm"

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>From the keyboard of William McVey:

> Several months ago I found out through this list that the current
> ISDN for BSD package does not support the ISDN protocols in use in
> the US.  It was explained that documentation was lacking for the
> US ISDN low level protocols.  Subsequent to that, some references*
> to for ISDN in the US were mailed to the list.  I was wondering if
> these resources were enough to begin doing the port to the US
> protocols? 

Hmm, i'd like to ask a different set of questions:

1) What is the most widely used ISDN protocol stack in the US ?

2) What are the the Part-, Order- or Standard numbers for the
   description of the D-channel layer one, two and three for the
   protocol answered by (1) and where can i get a copy of them 
   (without paying $$$) ?

When i get answers to these questions, i'll try to get the docs
for the D-channel protocol. After reading those docs, i'll probably
be able to answer _your_ question :-)

> Also, I could make available account access to a freebsd box which
> system which could be connected to the serial console of another
> machine with an USR Sportster TA connected to a a US NT1 switch.

In case this is an external TA connected to your machine with a serial
cable, this does not help much - anyway, thanks for the offer! What
is needed is a FreeBSD machine with a passive card using the standard
Siemens chipset connected to an ISDN S0 bus or U ref point. Currently
i have no idea, whether in the US the S0 bus or U ref point is the 
preferred connection (last time i was in the US i looked at Fry's and
found only U connected US-made cards). I know that some of the same
cards i4b currently supports are sold in the US with an U-interface,
_that_ would be an ideal starting point. 

If there were a good hardware setup, docs available, a reasonable
chance to get it run and a (good [i'm getting old ;-)]) place to sleep,
i'd even come over for a week or two and implement it .....

> * The two references which seemed to have the most content were Bellcore's
> site at http://www.bellcore.com/ISDN/ and the North American ISDN Users'
> Forum at http://www.niuf.nist.gov/misc/niuf.html

I've scanned them, i even have downloaded a couple of ISDN standards from
US ISDN sites, but either question 1 and/or 2 were not answered by reading
them.

It is at least difficult to find authorative answers to those questions
from Europe. Over here i at least had a chance to tap an S0 bus, look at
the data on the D-channel and compare that to standard texts until i
found the right one ;-)

hellmuth
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