From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 18 4:21:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from puck.firepipe.net (mcut-b-167.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC6637B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by puck.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 21C4319C8; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:21:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:21:10 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: HEADS UP: I386_CPU Message-ID: <20010118072110.A431@puck.firepipe.net> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , Warner Losh , FreeBSD Current References: <20010117191618.K1761@puck.firepipe.net> <200101160947.f0G9lKs11014@mobile.wemm.org> <20010116092843.A1858@puck.firepipe.net> <20010117162115.C7752@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20010117191618.K1761@puck.firepipe.net> <200101180634.f0I6Y9s43405@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101180634.f0I6Y9s43405@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:34:09PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:34:09PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > That's a red herring. The new features thing is what I mean. If I > were creating a product, I'd want one that is supported. So even if I > don't *NEED* a feature in 5.x, I might migrate my product to 5.x so > that I can continue to get bug fixes and leverage more support than I > can get with an older rev. One of the 5.x features might well be a > new compiler. I don't see that sort of thing being back ported to 4.x > at this point. I see. I guess that makes sense, although I don't see support for 4.x dropping until sometime in 2003 (speaking in terms of the FreeBSD Project, not necessarily commercial shops like BSDI). > That's one of the big reasons that we're 4.x based right now rather > than 3.x based, despite 4.x's slightly larger memory footprint. That > and 4.x's much better c++ compiler. Well, Warner, I've never done embedded systems. So, tell me, do they actually use any C++ code in embedded systems? C++ has a rather high overhead as far as disk space & memory goes. I would imagine that 99%+ of embedded systems do not use C++ code except perhaps for a very small amount of the code. --=20 wca #include : Not speaking for FreeBSD, just myself. --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6Zt+1F47idPgWcsURAkRgAJ9nqRGf8E8yycWC0ULgGAQDfF2voQCeMGp/ Pr8Zu1SglXCRgFXmggAuOvU= =ioAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message