From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jan 21 12:22:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from gw.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49D0537B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 42013 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jan 2001 06:21:52 +1000 X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.11 18-Jan-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://www.gbch.net X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/img/gjb-auug048.gif X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-pgpkey.asc Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:21:51 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Sergey Babkin Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , Matt Dillon , John Gregor , Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net, leifn@neland.dk, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab) References: <200101140244.f0E2i3518278@vieo.com> <3A621ABF.FA2C6432@bellatlantic.net> <200101142155.f0ELtLO64117@earth.backplane.com> <3A6A059C.486F6237@bellatlantic.net> <20010120235412.A42508@rapier.smartspace.co.za> <3A6B3D85.9773C9ED@bellatlantic.net> In-reply-to: <3A6B3D85.9773C9ED@bellatlantic.net> of Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:50:29 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sergey Babkin wrote: > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > > > On Sat 2001-01-20 (16:39), Sergey Babkin wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > I've committed these changes for cron to support DST change > > > to -current (see PR bin/24494 for description of my tests). > > > Everyone is welcome to test them out. > > > Please let me know if you encounter any problems caused by them > > > (and better do that before these changes would be MFCed to -stable > > > in a few weeks). > > > > I do believe this is premature. There really should at least be an > > option for the old behaviour, and there is a good argument for making > > the new behaviour optional dependent on a variable with the old > > Let me ask a simple question: Why ? What are the benefits of > preserving the old behavior ? As far as I've watched this thread > nobody had explained it. So could you please elaborate ? You have not been paying attention. Please go back and /read/ the archives on this topic which has been thrashed out in great detail here. We did not reach agreement about the desired behaviour because the nature of this issue is that different people desire different behaviour. What was agreed by those who contributed was clearly that the old behaviour was to be preserved by default and that new behaviour was to be enabled by a command-line option, which could be set in rc.conf. You have shown no reason not to go with the solution that was agreed, so please don't just jump in with your big boots on insisting that you know best. Nobody knows best about this. > > behaviour default. _Especially_ if you intend to MFC this, since > > changing this behaviour in a minor release, without a way to have the > > old behaviour, is almost certainly wrong. > > That's why I asked for comments. You should have read the thread more carefully. But you have been given comments now. Take heed of them and don't push ahead with this plan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message