From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 9 10:40:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F90437B400; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsidian.sentex.ca (obsidian.sentex.ca [64.7.128.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D7B43E3B; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:39:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by obsidian.sentex.ca (8.12.5/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g69HdumW018164; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:39:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020709125431.03fade00@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:43:45 -0400 To: Ken Gunderson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: intel etherexpress pro and fxp status?? Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020709102153.A14126@kasilof.boi.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (obsidian/20020220) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stick with the fxp. I suspect its a popular card in FreeBSD land so by that very nature you are going to see more "problem" reports even if those reports have nothing to do with the fxp and more to do with other issues (e.g. hardware interaction between the card and the MB, PE, etc). Think of it this way: Lets say for arguments sake 1% of all FreeBSD problem reports are a result of pilot error and erroneously blame the NIC and or the NIC driver. And again for arguments sake lets say 100,000 FreeBSD users out there. If 30% use the Intel, and the next most popular card is lets say the realtek at 5% FreeBSD market share, the realtek will "seem" like a more reliable card since there are less problem reports. Using the sample numbers above, we would see 300 erroneous reports for the Intel vs. 50 reports on the realtek. Long story short, be careful about looking at the raw numbers of problem reports as an indicator of how reliable the NIC is. ---Mike At 10:21 AM 09/07/2002 -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: >Greets All: > >during the 4.6rc era i recall there were issues with intel ether >pro and fxp drivers, particularly with smp boxes. Searching >pr's i note there are numerous open issues as well. in the past >the fbsd nic mantra has always been "intel ether express". Is >such still the case with the 82559 based nics (e.g. pila 8460), >or should I be looking elsewhere? Note that one of my boxes is a >dual pii 450 on a bx board. > > >Please cc, as I am no longer subscribed to the list (thanks to >the phb's) > > >-- > >Regards, > >Ken Gunderson (non-HP) >HP-UX Systems Administrator >HP NAOD Front-line System Management >Boise Server Support Team > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message