From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 18 15:05:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E8516A4CE; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:05:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.delit.net (delit.net [194.67.27.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF6B43DD7; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smir@netstream.ru) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (ppp83-237-55-213.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [83.237.55.213]) by mail.delit.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B9735038; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:04:59 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <428B59A0.7030108@netstream.ru> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:05:04 +0400 From: Andrey Smirnov User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050325) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20050516203932.0A38316A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> <42890874.4030600@t-hosting.hu> <4289E0E9.3060506@pacific.net.sg> <20050517173737.GA60953@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20050517173737.GA60953@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Bill Paul cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Erich Dollansky cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:05:06 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > Well, (Gary said, ddeliberately changing the ^Subject:), > interesting. My mother's parents are from Hungary, two of my > dad's grandparents from Germany. > > Didn't know about Hungary (or Japan). China, yes. Anybody > on this geek list know any other societies where the surname > is traditionally presented first and the given name last? > In Russia, in all official documents name is written: Family_Name First_Name Middle_Name So, my full name would be: Smirnov Andrey Andreevich In short form, we usually put first name in head of family name (surname): Andrey Smirnov This feels less official. So, it's sometimes hard to find out what is what if you don't know Russian names well.