Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:28:10 -0400 From: Jerry Seibert <jerry@seibercom.net> To: User questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food Message-ID: <20220327102810.00000e6d@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <CAM8r67Bn-SEOwaw4V3hWnYkYv27YuvpufVCygnOJA4C_ioWZvg@mail.gmail.com> References: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com> <20220327081341.ef6a08004fb6986edf1b941e@sohara.org> <CAOgwaMsCgKrepam6v42Nk1M%2BnfWqk-yRWeqmKMMu9McsKfeVfQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAM8r67Bn-SEOwaw4V3hWnYkYv27YuvpufVCygnOJA4C_ioWZvg@mail.gmail.com>
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--Sig_/Jvn=MnIgjlaSgAv=hUIcpMo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:18:06 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO stated: >On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, 11:26 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > >> This means that trouble is not coming from "Open Source" but from >> "Management of Use of Open Source " . >> >> >> Over the years , without relentlessly I am mentioning this difficulty >> point . >> It seems that there is no hope to reach a solution to this problem >> . I do not know why . >> > >The root cause of this are ideologies. "change is good". "the only >constant is change". "software development is about enforcing vision". >This is mostly thanks to Microsoft. Fancy Linux "bleeding edge" >followed. Then big tech like Google with Android and Smartphones did >the same what Microsoft did with Windows and PC. Then Samsung >followed. Then Apple followed. Now it's considered standard. Building >something without solid fundaments plus constant change of the >fundaments. > >Look at JavaScript and try to do anything with that mess, something >fundamentally flawed but extremely available and popular, not to >mention malware showing up more and more recently in various >dependencies that are totally out of control. > >This mess impacts BSD world but it is not welcome here and I hope it >never will. This is why I love BSD. More and more people can see that >too :-) > >-- >CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info "Publish or perish " is an aphorism describing the pressure to publish academic work to succeed in an academic career. A parallel can be drawn between that analogy and the need for software and operating system developers to innovate or wither on the vine. At the very least, they need to stay competitive, which means they must keep current. FreeBSD never innovates and rarely stays even remotely current. They are consistently behind other operating systems regarding innovation and staying current with modern devices, i.e., the 555-BEOY: Thunderbolt 3 PCIe Network and IO Card. {See: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666} FreeBSD may be fine for commercial use in servers, but it is falling seriously behind in the consumer market. The public, in general, is not interested in using an OS that fails to run their favorite or industry-standard software. Nor are they relishing the opportunity to be held hostage to a system that will not accommodate modern hardware devices. Even an ordinary, everyday item such as a printer driver can be an exercise in futility with FreeBSD. Getting a current driver with full printer support is difficult at best in way too many instances. I contacted Brother USA a few years ago inquiring about a driver for a high-end laser printer I had purchased. They had drivers for several *nix products, but none for FreeBSD. The engineer I spoke to ran Linux on his home PC and fully felt my pain. He explained that FreeBSD was just not mature enough to invest the money and time required to produce a full line of drivers. As I see it, FreeBSD will be relegated to the back of the pack for home use. I do not know a single business, at least a fortune 500, or any municipality that uses FreeBSD for their office PCs. If FreeBSD wants to stay relevant in the home market, they need to up their game and stop putting out a new version simply to put out a new version and rather invest the time and effort required to correct the existing bugs in FreeBSD and create drivers for newer devices. --=20 Jerry And in the immortal words of Elvira Hancock's advice to Tony Montana, "Don't get high on your own supply." --Sig_/Jvn=MnIgjlaSgAv=hUIcpMo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQiOBAEBCAb4FiEELeCiu2K+9VmEYYgTgHBP8gv9FXcFAmJAdHvGGSYAmQGNBF+4 XLcBDACugGY6FgAQjxK3dis7pVaE6Fb4yPpCb4NXprsj3yXXoFmCPbXwitivNxmb ec8elKabvywFSzOy5aZ6R3jeYu4ksLDPrZ6Pli40XRTkmIpGMeGzraRU6PbiQUbn 1DB8mpZSSI7Kcye/CwITTBnEWH9VMEYa+OPqTyl3GaJlbk46Gf3hYKsYVMt6a+SD y6FUIVlhUgj80aZa9JVgI7zLrGPktPE45deNJXF+R0jXUXyDWRuhjPv/wOYUUkdh Z9UhGcLJaQHBGbuOJWC5JI/uHwv6JA3KYC0k4tvKSG+zt1eqjjOYGQ15zIfsPB6d WzKEr0doB2E3YGyGmfPF4Tjxx43CvJGzuOjnQx/372lM+3/fyCESO4quJJmS2GfB UUW0OpP68/zcI9poSQa5Vmql/AnxL0SUY5WWtC8dpUqOlnYWz9+/nPq48WQZue49 XlMXOZILHcJUqKnGnOWVe9o5imP0TNFN09rhYuLAxi0GgudgS84sXoqHFPFyWM6b C+RV/YEAEQEAAbQoR2VyYXJkIEUuIFNlaWJlcnQgPGdlcmFyZEBzZWliZXJjb20u bmV0PokB0QQTAQgAOwIbAwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgBYhBC3gorti vvVZhGGIE4BwT/IL/RV3BQJfuGKyAhkBAAoJEIBwT/IL/RV39AgL/izMdmr1Qucb hMzTvcRp3bGEyJpNDC1OQ87ZrwjEjjIKeInSo9h05eS7c4Sfr1t4EnhemuH5PyZC N1TZN4aE8BKH//B2ohJl9dC+4Os6kkSbGtZ6WMXvndOHzEmmYGMHNIR2Yyq+ujGm vvbWwKbVUKWpXV2hhhdwGQafSyuWEryQ4dDP5wpDBvLv3VSVoyJsMJPuLDi3v59P ZiJEMuDEPfWVHFU6ZhFi9sP/0b3qNezklzKuKi25PS/dm/300PSwJPoI82hW/MkN 180rAJx2oWU80r7wkhDUHlBqFTAQ13c1/qcXEdF732l0fu/0j3HGYZusamGeY2Yw /ymEOQcadf3xT2at5fDhR8nKQm8kr1YH3X22I7WzoLIKkQcTnRUWqaXo0LRQkFKU zOmwCf6lqCpMCWmliRNls2jwsjscGFI8arLCIfawm8JtsUxeiRWZdC9PTGi/zMFX I27JBPYavFZxx1bPyLzLLsQI8pjP7z2+AxiycGalMWZWgnSJHGB/UbkBjQRfuFy3 AQwA2mcUiW4P7Gy/dSyt/H02g+3E2OL6nuJ9vg3isebMPhTjUQwGdUKF8MLEfR9L rrb866h0VITW2kD60YZziUtY5GgChPgqnFO1ynDDX742RKdUkzEQunXrNxZBeuHw JIazEU5lBTaKrtI+MfkLlD88EBlfQhZnpG7E/wkGOAhmorpTIecAxA07kV5+2XH5 EGYPjceb+kU4k97I7b6V/UeLyd28ude3aMf69OHFAyMHpxZqMEoXaOOLrRF+MuS+ RiB75heLc5TIdv86yZZGYU2o0HnIA6Q9rF3n3xUC2OUTrzHZ3AFFkyERh3CbvUDt vxrbPBNbBs6r1IOdcaDvtwb+c1Ug6lz2AzbldyJWoZunDO4gR2MdXhKAqZLBtQF4 rcDKS6U8KknyMMCPjPhOWXGneCsmT3bY4Qem7uAFepMZIzR0Sj2Bqf8XaRuKE8j2 LwecOKev5bGAkmI3i8D/3d+w5ttFYrag79Ofd2fJYfGUnqkdz4JLuQa38N+9D6g8 yPLbABEBAAGJAbYEGAEIACAWIQQt4KK7Yr71WYRhiBOAcE/yC/0VdwUCX7hctwIb DAAKCRCAcE/yC/0Vd94EDACghnb9rXxQK63+EGuGTJA0Vm3N9lQXMLXOGx00+p36 vxKDeN+/JIm3aMdP1WdCrZlWLiI8SQUDbFUrG/7j2GmCkVpi2/EOFJBvrTP5zLh4 yHE2ZwaKi+YH+ugUxFXgrWrvn6yQzDetakAnwFvbBTG5uUNgVBqOwCr6MzWKBe/g yruRojHyHTFY6kX3B7RPzzLDc9BnPWdewQLvavsrTKayjuIIhanPKSK9+7sSIybu 0BgGyGBRAaWJ6M1Uh+AURMZLz6l37+/fGJrSzb4DiwvlE4AVSIbY42MVco8GK9tA 8QBeFua4+e4dU7dCUEkTMu5hlIp22Zt1Yktut2IzOzTD7GVvSOoQWYqvLow+6i0V gQ5Tot75wn4zPhyPv7A/iJLmWqxiz1kc2bato1u+3ap9s48UKa7nWMwA78gOAIV8 SUaeoQ1qA859TrFJejISkJEBTMH6tQuPIu17XG/oIABy/WzuGIBeL5X9StZv9a06 H94HvlnAwn48TZxSvamIu5QACgkQgHBP8gv9FXcYdgv/eprPyaT0kDv9VINyreQB mtETRjYlaIpR/ImaqOpLVMRQcRG/i06km1X4RAw9wOQH42UCqT8oaXSmUCFroOsg qXbn6zV9zPhg7o+0r9ELPBcXpBuOsnNi9tViq1gBT96VJyplgjYlTglRhk52h2zE fex3MZU+CTZ1qGeFZAXGC1rxWqviMIdJ3LmRJUY51cWmUqhAc+oPjF71D7JiBUj7 gVZugoDJ688qc13h80jzf7iooWj/OnSKZR0WwgOoJQXshwaqRFAp5TsKIRC+Dc0q AuoQ3+GGrfIiIEquTxCNuonZZsp6KNb+nEs+qxOiEssq520ACIgOJbutNbsD4UUQ ibUIaylGdeIm95W8x+A1bo1WwcCf+DDrFyHx4w1y67iZ5sgV0At/lBCJ4TvYnKO6 94GL+HzDgxOaL8AJynsIZODRnuPlhvtxLU36X1S6xSgMTqaqdfwIJuVfybFUBLGS 1UULysfNQfEX1ZSDNiXAgfnuv3bxB6jL3BRSYRYlL5ap =+Mc9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Jvn=MnIgjlaSgAv=hUIcpMo--
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