From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Mar 7 23:15:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C0837B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f287FZN96922; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:15:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Stephen Shankland" , "Wes Peters" Cc: Subject: RE: Maxtor picks Windows, dumps open source Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:15:34 -0800 Message-ID: <000401c0a79f$91216f20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010307081008.00b9d018@cnet10.cnet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Stephen Shankland [mailto:stephens@cnet.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:18 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Wes Peters >Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Maxtor picks Windows, dumps open source > > >Thanks for all the e-mail, folks. Hi Stephen, Thanks very much for at least taking the time to respond to what probably were a number of e-mails from many other people, regarding your article at http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2692519,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews 01 Members of The FreeBSD Project do appreciate any mention of FreeBSD in the news, whether positive or negative. We enjoy positive comments and stories as praise for hard work on the Project. We view negative stories as an opportunity to correct problems and make things better. I'm pleased that you acknowledged that the statement that Steve Williams made was incorrect in talking about a 2GB limit. For the record, he also was incorrect when he said that FreeBSD doesen't support Apple filesystems because there are several FreeBSD programs that do. We look forward to a followup story setting the record straight. There are some valid responses to the assertion, unsupported by fact, that Win2K has better interoperability than FreeBSD. I'm particularly annoyed at this implication because I just got done publishing a book that is _specifically_ about interoperation of FreeBSD in a Windows network. Probably nobody at Maxtor read it. I also might point out that the majority of corporations _at_this_time_ have not made the move to Win2K and have no intention of doing so. Per Aberdeen Group, Giga Information Group, see http://datamation.earthweb.com/earthweb/cda/dlink.resource-jhtml.72.965.%7Cr epository%7C%7Citmanagement%7Ccontent%7Carticle%7C2000%7C12%7C06%7CEMmullich wincon%7CEMmullichwincon~xml.41.jhtml?cda=true About the only advantage of Win2K on Maxtor's product that I can see at this time is that there's a bunch of commercial ISV's that are eager to sell the customers add-on software that they couldn't do if it was FreeBSD. (because the stuff that they would use to do the same tasks is all free under FreeBSD) Some advantage - it seems that Maxtor is more interested in making friends with the ISV's than giving the customer a cost-effective solution. As I've stated before in the Advocacy group, I don't mind if someone prints a slanted story if it's clearly marked as an opinion piece. I do that myself with my own column all the time. What I object to, and I think most people object to, is framing a story as a news piece that is so obviously biased towards a party. I would feel equally uncomfortable if you wrote a story that was completely slanted towards FreeBSD and failed to get a quote from any of the competition. In the future when talking about FreeBSD whether in a positive or a negative light, e-mail someone in the group and GET A QUOTE from them. In the FreeBSD Project itself, Jordan K Hubbard is assigned to Public Relations & Corporate Liaison. There are also some recognized individuals (such as myself, and Greg Lehey, and several other authors) in the FreeBSD community, and in addition to that, BSDi (owner of Walnut Creek, the largest FreeBSD distributor) has a marketing department. ---Any of us can speak for the FreeBSD Project!!! Unlike a commercial organization FreeBSD is completely volunteer, and the folks here ARE the Voice of FreeBSD---- You can call me at my office anytime 9-6 MF, PST for a quote if you have a hot story. There's absolutely NO EXCUSE for not getting a quote. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >Stephen Shankland >reporter, CNET News.com >phone: 415-364-8406 >email: stephens@cnet.com >Yahoo Instant Messenger: stshank >mailing address: 150 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94111 >street address: 1160 Battery St., third floor, San Francisco, CA 94111 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message