From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 27 19:30:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B397106566C for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giffunip@tutopia.com) Received: from nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9102B8FC17 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2011 19:29:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.234] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2011 19:29:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2011 19:29:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 4666.15469.bm@omp1034.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 48576 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Aug 2011 19:29:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1314473398; bh=Cm6r3Bm6oAR9EntXA0JmQ4btRn+EUpJ4MNb83mK4oak=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YpK2cqC4lLz2vhtmhF08WFGJZ+5Lx2Kgw4YqZMFaQkpQuYtKjCp2cNLge9PWEY1i1JP5dyKLBFHrkolW73mGYxkgXD6MxtHDND+YGB+Muq7pj14HY+Kv5la3ZzQkvpik8TeyuZd+JMqL3te5GAVILhL4WWTBn32nvNQYWCHNE3Y= X-YMail-OSG: EZSi00sVM1kf2GED6VtGBPgrtRfD32HTu50xszrb3KTiXHI h4vlqXwJU164psLTvxqntv_6GShK5LQ7t0mxK9m0eUfmhfhFDqs5Uip9pp.b 6SJgENvPWVFyUCZ3Q7RIHsX3wznKODuT4nWhcP7BHWK1GvK4eAxsHnmV358a LpVHd2xGkgeuyyF6QR1yMcWOc4yHKDCfJKlHSqNrLqpfIzYqDKZKJDrf8sLR FnJbC47IrFsX8.tFANg0uhrUihL.G6IOBLlhFFfOSr7Tnl5_m_k.QeKscaL_ n0Jk.jmBVfCX8qZwmID1tp8J1XBIT..zhJbm.PJsVi6RnlfMUTsuDs1zpdhG BTj6amBtqoHcjvdRNnF4tC2Q4DifbmWQMZ1_2Uv7UYsJhEZIeIjhXUqldAAK uvrH8J1qf_PoLWBXMyiBpElbfK1FfqL7kGJgLhKAvTCFlc6ULxiNEzvD3cbO upbU- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:29:58 PDT X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 Message-ID: <1314473398.47547.YahooMailClassic@web113509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:29:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" To: Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How about finally replacing GNATS? (was Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: giffunip@tutopia.com List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:30:00 -0000 Hi; --- On Sat, 8/27/11, Eitan Adler wrote: ... I agree it's difficult to determine exactly which tool to use. > > With every tool change comes a workflow change and we need > to be able to deal with that. As a member of the bugbusting > team one of the most useful features for me has been the > ability to use shell scripts to change bug states. As a > port maintainer one of the most useful features has been > the ability to use send-pr from the command line > _without registration_. I do think port maintainers should have some form of ID in the bug reporting system. Casual users probably won't send a PR anyways but instead will contact the port maintainer first. ... (I snipped without mercy a lot of good stuff here) > > In order to achieve that goal I am working on two things: > a) A wiki page which we could use to describe the features > we want *in order of priority* and b) A Google form with > a list of features and related issues to act as a survey. > The former is quite empty at the moment. > The latter will be announced (hopefully) shortly > Surveys are good but you have to tie it to the specific alternatives, otherwise you will reach the already known answer that a perfect bug reporting system doesn't exist. Pedro.