From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 20:51:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419B116A4CE; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acampi.inet.it (acampi.inet.it [213.92.1.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B0A43D2D; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:51:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrea@acampi.inet.it) Received: by acampi.inet.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 20B8320; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:51:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:51:43 +0100 From: Andrea Campi To: Brooks Davis Message-ID: <20050125205142.GA8930@webcom.it> References: <20050125.101021.41686898.imp@harmony.village.org> <20050125175022.GA8667@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050125175022.GA8667@odin.ac.hmc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Warner Losh cc: phk@phk.freebsd.dk cc: Robert Watson cc: imp@bsdimp.com cc: pete@altadena.net Subject: Re: Devd event from GEOM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:51:44 -0000 On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:50:22AM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: > > be properly managed by today's dhclient. Likewise, I want to always have > > link local addresses configured for every network interface, and not have > > things like dhclient step on them. This requires dhclient to become > > substantially more mature and/or grow a lot, or it requires a new daemon. > > Having many daemons is just asking for them all to step on each other's > > toes, adding and removing addresses and routes in ways that leaves me with > > nothing useful to network with, requiring user intervention. If you've > > ever used a FreeBSD box in this scenario, followed by a Mac OS X box, > > you'll know what I mean. Neither is perfect, but the one with centralized > > configuration management does a much better job :-). > > FWIW, Sam's got a port of openbsd's dhclient in perforce. It's > apparently significantly less foobar then ours. Unfortunatly, dhclient > isn't enough because we also need wpa_supplication for modern wireless > networks (it also provides basic 802.1x support for wired interfaces in > linux and we'll probably want that too.) I think we'll be able to > simply add a wpa_supplicant_ifs="..." variable to start wpa_supplicant > independent of dhclient, but I'm not 100% sure yet. And than you want howl for Zeroconf/Rendezvous... If people agreed to have it in the base system, some scripting would tie everything together seamlessly to give the same level of functionality as Mac OS X or better. Bye, Andrea -- ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.