From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 09:34:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5811106564A; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (mx0.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D04D8FC16; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alf.home (alf.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.177]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p9T9YCde002800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:34:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from alf.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alf.home (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9T9YCPP013726; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:34:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by alf.home (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p9T9YBZ9013725; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:34:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: alf.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:34:11 +0300 From: Kostik Belousov To: Lawrence Stewart Message-ID: <20111029093411.GI50300@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <20111023230634.GA47508@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <87ty6z2ofd.fsf@FreeBSD.org> <20111024040703.GA42523@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <4EA51C45.3060108@FreeBSD.org> <4EABB854.2070606@freebsd.org> <20111029084744.GH50300@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <4EABBFC4.9060807@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aLqULfPQaqGw87pX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EABBFC4.9060807@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Raphael Kubo da Costa , Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: KWin no longer compositing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:34:17 -0000 --aLqULfPQaqGw87pX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 07:56:36PM +1100, Lawrence Stewart wrote: > On 10/29/11 19:47, Kostik Belousov wrote: > >On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 07:24:52PM +1100, Lawrence Stewart wrote: > >>On 10/24/11 19:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >>>on 24/10/2011 07:07 Greg Lewis said the following: > >>>>So it seems like even the newest version we support in ports is an > >>>>antique :(. I'm going to guess upgrading it is not going to be easy. > >>> > >>>Almost trivial in a sense. > >>>I've been using xorg-dev for quite a while and it works great (for me). > >>>Mesa is > >>>at 7.11 in those ports. > >>> > >>>http://trillian.chruetertee.ch/ports/wiki > >>> > >> > >>I too no longer have compositing in KDE 4.7.2 where I used to with > >>4.6.x. Is there a technical reason the newer MESA hasn't been merged > >>into mainline ports? Or is it purely a manpower thing? > > > >There is newer Mesa in xorg-dev. See the instructions at > >http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2011/02/cft-xorg-7-5-miwi1-freebsd-edition/ >=20 > Thanks for the pointer. >=20 > >There is a rat nest of the system dependencies and ddx/xorg server > >versions that makes the update really tricky. Until GEMified i915.ko > >is not committed to the src/, the Intel GPUs will not work, I believe. > >Also, it seems that Mesa 7.11 is the last release that will work > >for Radeon DRM that lacks TTM and execution support. >=20 > I use Radeon so I guess it's an interim update which will get things=20 > going in the short term followed by hoping someone capable of doing the= =20 > TTM support for it comes forward. Do you have a feel for just how much=20 > time would be involved in doing the required work to get the radeon=20 > driver up to scratch? Does your work for the Intel GPUs lay some common= =20 > groundwork which will reduce the work required to update other drivers=20 > like radeon? (It is clear I have no concept about how all the moving=20 > parts fit together or what's involved in getting all drivers into shape= =20 > for "the future" i.e. KMS). I think 3-4 months is the reasonable estimation for bringing up both TTM/execution and KMS for radeons. The KMS infrastructure is already ported. If somebody is interested in doing the Radeon driver proper, I may port TTM. --aLqULfPQaqGw87pX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk6ryJMACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4jW/QCgqL90ZzfnJIniqrn1SdF1/Iy9 ylQAn35UiRTaEgpQ4SLxCDJbGXHk2MBc =OcA4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aLqULfPQaqGw87pX--