From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 05:26:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEFE1065677 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 05:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (mail.oclc.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45BE8FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 05:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25371; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:08:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-88-217-63-22.dynamic.mnet-online.de(88.217.63.22) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma025327; Sat, 5 Jul 08 07:08:16 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m655G5nx002065; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:16:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:16:05 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Alexander Sack Message-ID: <20080705051605.GA1840@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080704124227.GA10264@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080704164015.514425fd@bhuda.mired.org> <3c0b01820807041712l39bdafd8sf3914c2b462023c6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820807041712l39bdafd8sf3914c2b462023c6@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer Subject: Re: kernel HEAD && userland 7.0-REL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:26:01 -0000 El día Friday, July 04, 2008 a las 08:12:58PM -0400, Alexander Sack escribió: > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Mike Meyer > wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:42:27 +0200 > > Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> I'm running a RELENG_7 kernel and a userland as 7.0-REL on one of my > >> laptops; I've been asked to check if a given driver problem in RELENG_7 is as > >> well with HEAD... can I update the kernel to HEAD and let the userland > >> (and all my compiled ports) as 7.0-REL; I know that this is not the > >> intention, but it would cost me a lot of work if I should compile as > >> well ~200 ports.... > > > > When you say HEAD, do you mean the HEAD of 8-CURRENT or 7-STABLE? In > > either case whether or not it works depends on whether something has > > changed in the kernel that has a required userland change. > > > > On the other hand, if you mean 7-STABLE, then the ports should work > > properly whether userland does or not. > > As a note, I just recently used HEAD on a 7_STABLE box to test changes > recently to re for an updated PCIe revision NIC card on my Eee Box. > It worked fine (both runtime and my NIC which I then patched my > 7_STABLE tree which also worked, yea!). In a thread I started about > cross platform building, it seems that historically FreeBSD has had a > very stable ABI allowing multiple kernels to run underneath different > versions of user land (this is certainly not the case for all *NIX > variants). When I said HEAD, I mean HEAD in terms of CVS; and my situation is the same: I want to check some problem with ath / hal on my eeePC 900, if it is also in HEAD or only in RELENG_7 branch; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ «...una sola vez, que es cuanto basta si se trata de verdades definitivas.» «...only once, which is enough if it has todo with definite truth.» José Saramago, Historia del Cerca de Lisboa