From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 21 22:20:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAAC16A420; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45D143D48; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (k0fjaf51bclqnaou@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2LMKlHn003545; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:20:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k2LMKlju003544; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:20:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:20:46 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Jason Evans Message-ID: <20060321222046.GY35129@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jason Evans , current@FreeBSD.org References: <20060321184019.GX35129@funkthat.com> <47CC5AC0-1B44-4485-92A9-70751681A527@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47CC5AC0-1B44-4485-92A9-70751681A527@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: core dumps are HUGE... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:20:48 -0000 Jason Evans wrote this message on Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 14:16 -0800: > On Mar 21, 2006, at 10:40 AM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > >If someone wants to spend some time investigating this, this looks > >like > >an interesting puzzle: > >-bash-2.05b$ cat t.c > >int main() { char *p = 0; *p = 5; return 0;} > >-bash-2.05b$ cc -static -o t t.c > >-bash-2.05b$ ./t > >Segmentation fault (core dumped) > >-bash-2.05b$ ls -l t t.core > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 jmg jmg 179737 Mar 21 10:36 t > >-rw------- 1 jmg jmg 50049024 Mar 21 10:36 t.core > > > >I first read that as 5megs, but it turns out that it's 50megs in size! > >A 50 meg core dump for a static program that does nothing? Though I > >also have questsions about a 179k program file size for something that > >doesn't call any functions... > > > >Now the interesting part is that dynamicly linked: > >-bash-2.05b$ cc -o t t.c > >-bash-2.05b$ ./t > >Segmentation fault (core dumped) > >-bash-2.05b$ ls -l t t.core > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 jmg jmg 4615 Mar 21 10:38 t > >-rw------- 1 jmg jmg 303104 Mar 21 10:38 t.core > > > >only 303k... Still on the hefty side of things for a program that > >just cores, but better than static's 50megs... > > When did you last update this system? I expect the large core dump > is due to the 16 MB chunk size for older versions of jemalloc. 3 > chunks would add up to about the right amount, though I'd only expect > there to be 2 chunks for that example program, so I'm guessing that > you're running on i386, and that there is nearly 16 MB of padding on > the heap in order to get the first chunk properly aligned. The > version of malloc I checked in late last week uses a 2 MB chunk size, > so the core size should be much smaller. > > The core dump from the static binary is probably much smaller because > nothing ever calls malloc (no dynamic loader in the mix). Ummm. you made the same mistake someone else did... The core dump from the static binary is not smaller, it's much larger.. Reread above... And yes, I'm pretty sure that I have a world from before your reduction in chunk size... Having a minimum of a 6meg core doesn't sound like a good idea... It's definately not going to play nice with small systems.. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."