From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 07:58:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB1816A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 07:58:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [140.177.207.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2638043D48 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 07:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from craig@backfire.ca) Received: from localhost (CPE0050bf78b8c6-CM023459906096.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.157.84.118]) (authenticated bits=0)j187vjGl034138 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:57:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from craig@backfire.ca) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 02:57:39 -0500 From: Craig Reyenga To: Diego Calleja Message-ID: <20050208075739.GA53593@burnout.lan.bluemidnight.ca> References: <4205F382.8020404@freebsd.org> <20050206194857.5920e369.diegocglinux@yahoo.es> <42066967.1060300@freebsd.org> <1107754103.4206fc77b1e68@imp4-q.free.fr> <20050207214652.0ccf31a2.diegocglinux@yahoo.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050207214652.0ccf31a2.diegocglinux@yahoo.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.81, clamav-milter version 0.81b on just.puresimplicity.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=8.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on just.puresimplicity.net cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The case for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Craig Reyenga List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:58:05 -0000 On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:46:52PM +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > > Advertising works, but only if there is a sound product behind it. > > Advertising works regardless of the product, and windows is the best proof of this > I don't see windows advertisements too often, but I see it everywhere, so advertising seems kind of redundant. > And lack of advertising can kill a product, regardless of the quality of the > product (ie: digital) > I'm going to have to disagree with you there, and go along with the grandparent poster. I think that the quality of the product is extremely important. Have you heard of the Ferrari Enzo? Of course you have. Have you ever seen an advertisement for it on televsion? Of course not. The car's V12 engine and ceramic brakes speak for themselves [1]. I believe that the best products are the ones that require no hype or promotion at all. Further, it does not appear that the typical FreeBSD user is the type of person that will really submit to copious amounts of advertising and promotion. What I think the community needs is more users making online logbooks (or "blogs" if you must) documenting what they did to their system to get it to do such and such thing, and the problems they had along the way. I have done this myself, and I get the occasional email with a polite "thank you" in the body of the email. Much of what I have learned about FreeBSD in the ~4 years that I have been using it was from the outstanding official documentation, _and_ personal pages and irc. I fail to see what could be more thorough than thousands of users writing small docs. Perhaps an official Wiki or similar is in order. I have continuing faith in FreeBSD, and I will continue to use it. It may not be getting the fastest lap times, but it is still an excellent ride. -Craig [1] I am not affiliated with Ferrari in any way.