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Date:      Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:46:53 -0500
From:      Jim Bryant <kc5vdj@yahoo.com>
To:        "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>
Cc:        Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>, Martin Aherron <martin@cybernetics.com>, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: what's wrong with this picture :-)
Message-ID:  <3B74F0FD.BD874B21@yahoo.com>
References:  <01Jul25.213803edt.119044@cyborg.cybernetics.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107251846520.37199-100000@beppo> <20010725200625.A44606@panzer.kdm.org> <3B747CD2.A7F44851@yahoo.com> <20010810194807.A74472@panzer.kdm.org>

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"Kenneth D. Merry" wrote:
> You're getting the base transfer speed for the bus confused with the
> actual negotiated transfer speed.  3.3MB/sec is async narrow SCSI, which
> is the baseline transfer speed for most SCSI controllers.  The
> negotiated transfer speed is printed out when the device probes, and
> by camcontrol negotiate.

My bad...  oops!

> > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #18: Fri Aug 10 16:51:25 CDT 2001 [cvsupped about 4am CST today] Tyan S1696-DLUA Mobo / 512M / Two
> > Pentium-II/333's
> >
> > See the full dmesg output in the -current thread I'm about to post concerning ACPI tables not being found, boot_verbose was set.
> >
> > The SCSI timeouts have been "normal" here for a couple/few years.  Everything comes up fine once it sorts itself out.
> 
> I don't know why you're getting timeouts, Justin will probably have to
> comment when he gets back.
> 

I hope he gets a chance to, everything does come up fine after the timeouts sort themselves out on ahc1, but it is still pretty much
a pain in the butt having to wait for the boot.  Usually it takes a couple of minutes before it gets going after it hits the
"waiting for scsi to settle" message..  I had bumped it up to 30 seconds from 15 seconds, but that didn't change a thing as far as
the timeouts go.  as i recall, seven seconds was too soon, and caused other problems, which i why i normally run a 15 second wait. 
Once it hits the "waiting..." though, and I haven't physically timed it, I'll guestimate about two minutes before I get to /etc/rc.

I don't know if it's just a quirk with my hardware or what...  It's been that way for a long time.  The 'cuda is the only thing on
ahc1, and ahc0 consists of an internal cd-rom, and an external dds-2 [via a mobo to back-panel-socket-insert-thingie that goes like
a card bracket].  Both the cd-rom and tape drive are terminated, and the external cable is only a three footer.

The SCSI BIOS is set for automatic termination.

As far as the "error 6" on cd0 on ahc0, i only grepped on cd0, so i could have missed some messages.

jim
-- 
ET has one helluva sense of humor!
He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos!

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