Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:38:48 -0800 From: Nathan Kinkade <nkinkade@dsl-only.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail / Fetchmail / Procmail / Mozilla Message-ID: <20021202163848.GE467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> In-Reply-To: <20021202083540.GE86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> References: <3DEA0CB4.3030204@p6m7g8.com> <20021201184537.GD86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021201200318.GA467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> <20021202083540.GE86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz>
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On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 09:35:40AM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> # nkinkade@dsl-only.net / 2002-12-01 12:03:18 -0800:
> > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 07:45:37PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > If I want to use fetchmail to snag email from say 4 different pop acounts
> > > > and then filter it with procmail and use mozilla to read it (which I've
> > > > read is trivial to do), what parts of sendmail (or any mta) must I
> > > > have running minimally on localhost.
> > >
> > > none. you don't need sendmail to accept mail through fetchmail (just
> > > have it store messages directly in your mailbox instead of pulling
> > > them through sendmail; you get an added bonus of preventing mail
> > > loops in case you manage to misconfigure either part), and you don't
> > > need sendmail to send mail from mozilla, as it has its own
> > > implementation of a smtp client, just like any other clickoid mail
> > > client (IOW, it bypasses the standard, which is passing the message
> > > to sendmail on the command line.)
> > >
> > > note however, that disabling sendmail completely will cripple your
> > > system in that you will no longer receive the valuable output from
> > > periodic(8) scripts, and possibly in other areas.
> > <big snip>
> >
> > Why would disabling sendmail cripple all of the periodic scripts? Other
> > than those scripts that relate specifically to an MTA, which others
> > would be affected?
>
> where in the text you quoted did I say that disabling sendmail would
> cripple periodic(8) scripts? I said it would cripple the system in
> that root would no longer receive the output of the periodic
> scripts.
>
> > Also, if you have another MTA just edit /etc/mail/mailer.conf to point
> > to your new MTA, as the various invocations of sendmail are just
> > wrappers that use the mailer.conf file to determine exactly what they
> > should be executing. I recently left sendmail in favour of Exim. A
> > few tweaks to mailer.conf and one or two minor changes to a few of the
> > periodic scripts and everything is in order.
>
> I was speaking about sendmail, not Sendmail. This part of the
> message was specifically about having system with no *s*endmail. The
> latter half was about disabling {S,s}endmail. I run Postfix on all
> my machines, so I guess I'm quite aware *S*endmail is not exactly
> required.
OK. I apologize if I mis-interpreted your post. It wasn't clear to me
that your were making a distinction between "Sendmail" and "sendmail",
as you don't point out such a distinction. Still, how does one totally
disable "sendmail" without deleting the wrapper named `sendmail`? My
rc.conf file has 'sendmail_enable="NONE"', yet I still receive the
output from the periodic scripts via Exim. I am not trying to question
your mastery of FreeBSD. I am simply trying to clarify this matter so
that if I am in error I may correct myself.
Nathan
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