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Date:      Mon, 8 Jun 2026 16:13:09 +0100
From:      Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@freebsd.org>
To:        =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@FreeBSD.org>, "dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org" <dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org>, "dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org" <dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: git: ddf6fad0295a - main - etcupdate: Make nobuild the default
Message-ID:  <D1BF14A1-5D5E-4C44-BC0C-BEA9DBAC62EA@freebsd.org>
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On 8 Jun 2026, at 16:09, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@freebsd.org> writes:
>> Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@freebsd.org> writes:
>>> commit ddf6fad0295aa92af5eed2a4b2fa0bd02f47d94d
>>> Author:     Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@FreeBSD.org>
>>> AuthorDate: 2026-06-05 15:53:25 +0000
>>> Commit:     Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@FreeBSD.org>
>>> CommitDate: 2026-06-05 15:53:25 +0000
>>> 
>>>   etcupdate: Make nobuild the default
>>> 
>>>   The common case for etcupdate is to run it after building and installing
>>>   the world, in which case we already have an object directory to draw on.
>>>   Add a -b option to turn nobuild off (opposite of -B), and turn nobuild
>>>   on by default.
>>> 
>>>   MFC after:      1 week
>> Changing the default here seems like it might not be appropriate for MFC?
> 
> On the contrary, the reason I'm switching is that the current default is
> harmful.

Any user relying on this (yes, harmful for the majority of cases)
default for a current release would be rightfully annoyed that a minor
release changed the command-line interface in a breaking manner, IMO.

I won’t block you MFCing this in its entirety, but that breakage is on
you if a user encounters it.

Jessica



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