From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 21 01:57:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E912AF79; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7158FC08; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id wz12so4920511pbc.13 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:57:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Z7nDZcmSBhiFsE+6yP0nWRZe/z1Y9AovgGrYQC8yZF0=; b=Sint1BemyOBi1Kt6RMRrA411JnkBlTVaIALW9CAtF+5FgIUZeQBDuu5YPwBPCk+1y5 3B4LSoBaQ39ejxfzAiZ2UvRwXxgPXKBlU1QyN8BJRtWczM6/ra5rtoVsjqOEPT2Ps2s5 Go3s0qCXtfhl/FAM8NO+6rV8N5ruanAY6nzMt0Onp8q75vJIpy+wzOhn+DyBwGiUYDps WorIRFqSFLXepHjjKKRhWRsj1/Sfv9N0M5HJ9xg4zrgMEkoLTfd83zjBcU4dInAnUBqD u8Ly0OW7O67BR9MKIYmNadHgcii2UgCUk/iiN5nChcyVByBGbfj23U6atcV7BAxYKwx9 AHcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.235.71 with SMTP id uk7mr55114750pbc.10.1353463074127; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.8.2 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.8.2 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:57:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201211201543.17903.Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> References: <201211201543.17903.Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:57:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax. From: Kevin Wilcox To: Mark Martinec X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:22:26 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:57:55 -0000 On Nov 20, 2012 9:44 AM, "Mark Martinec" wrote: > > Paul Webster wrote: > > I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, > > I believe the final decision was that too many users are used to the old > > style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause too much confusion. > > I don't buy that. Think of a confusion in a year of two when > OpenBSD PF rules and the PF documentation won't match the > legacy syntax in FreeBSD's PF. Their documentation already doesn't match the legacy syntax, you have to look for older pf documentation to match that in use by FreeBSD. This has been the case since at least OpenBSD 4.7: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade47.html To get documentation for FreeBSD pf, you generally need to look for OpenBSD documentation for 4.2 or 4.3 as there were minute changes in the mid-4.x range. kmw