From owner-freebsd-java Fri Mar 26 21:51:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271B61517E; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:51:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA20953; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:50:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:50:55 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Price To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Cc: Brian Adkins , Donald Wilde , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: A BSD-licensed JIT (was Re: Development Projects) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990326130833.00ad6680@mailbox.iwaynet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Please forgive the cross-post. This started on advocacy, but should really be moved to java. For those on the advocacy list that want to follow it over please do. Anyone that replies please remove advocacy from the cc: line before hitting send.] I've had about all of this I can stand. I've read the JIT docs and seen the size of the tarballs to a couple of JITs. Not trying to trivialize in anyway what it takes to write a really good JIT, but I want one under a BSD-style license and I think we can get something workable in a reasonable amount of time. Anyone out there care to either: a) Approach one of the GPL'd JITs and ask for a BSD-style licensed release. b) Help me write one from scratch. I sure I'm going to regret saying this, but writing a JIT (IMHO) has to be easier to write than a FreeBSD emulator for Linux. :) Comments/suggestions/code? -steve On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Brian Adkins wrote: # Donald, # I think you may have the cart before the horse. To attract more Java # users to FreeBSD, the JDK needs to improve substantially. The average Java # user is not interested in helping a platform become better, they are # interested in platforms that run their apps well right now. I personally # wouldn't recommend increasing the visibility of FreeBSD's JDK until it # improves - timing is important here because increasing the visibility # before it's ready will just leave a bad lasting impression. # I don't want to dampen enthusiasm for the JDK on FreeBSD; I really hope # it continues to improve and becomes a competitive product because I think # the combination of FreeBSD and a competitive JDK is powerful. # I just called TowerJ to inquire about their product. When I asked if # they were planning on porting their product to FreeBSD, he said they were, # but didn't give a time frame. He did say that they've received a lot of # requests to do so. Unfortunately, their product is fairly expensive; # however, if you combine their pricy product with a nicely priced FreeBSD, # you will still have a very competitive Java platform. # # Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message